# Star Trek Lower Decks

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340 "2020-07-14T21:53:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/283 "2021-10-20T05:51:24Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Section 31? Too obvious. I’m guessing Romulans.

Nah, it’s going to be someone much more obscure. Some race we met in a single episode of TNG.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/284 "2021-10-20T10:28:04Z")

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Metrons?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/285 "2021-10-20T16:41:45Z")

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Those fish aliens Fleetwood Mac portrayed?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/286 "2021-10-20T16:56:43Z")

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Already done them.

> **[Analysis: Clues And Easter Eggs Revealed In ‘Star Trek: Lower Decks’ Season 2...](https://trekmovie.com/2021/07/14/analysis-clues-and-easter-eggs-revealed-in-star-trek-lower-decks-season-2-clip/)**
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> A demotion, some Datas, fish people, and more.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/287 "2021-10-20T17:25:20Z")

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Harry Mudd!

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/288 "2021-10-20T19:57:22Z")

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A backup copy of Spock’s brain?

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/289 "2021-10-20T20:25:00Z")

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Twenty Quatloos says it’s… Cyrano Jones! Not really, just trying to think of another Pakled level potential antagonist.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/290 "2021-10-22T14:47:34Z")

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Maybe these guys?: [Satarran | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Satarran)

I just finished the last three episodes of S2 and enjoyed them. Showing the Vulcan and Klingon lower decks (and briefly, the Pakled) was a nice idea; I wouldn’t be surprised if we see that young Vulcan office aboard the _Cerritos_. I liked the ominous hints about Rutherford’s implants, and didn’t mind the cliffhanger - I’m sure Capt. Freeman will be vindicated. It’d be nice to have another courtroom-drama episode like “Court Martial” (with the usual _STLD_ jokes, of course).

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Also loved that they brought back Sonya Gomez as Captain of the Archimedes. She’s come along way from spilling hot chocolate on Captain Picard shortly before first contact with the Borg!

Yes! Voiced by the same actress. I liked that she mentioned to the young officer who tripped and fell on the Bridge that you can get over an embarrassing moment early in your career and still go on to do great things. Check it out:

_Gomez was brought back for an appearance in_ Star Trek: Lower Decks. _Showrunner Mike McMahan said in an interview that he wanted to bring back characters from previous series that the audience might not expect. McMahan said, "In fact, I’m not even sure of the last time Lycia Naff performed a fictional character. It was like, if anybody’s going to do it, she’s one of the original lower deckers. Let’s make her a captain. Let’s give her a win. In this episode, I tried to write her as an amazing captain. Where does she end up? What is her attitude? How does she treat her subordinates? Because we see her having a tough time on the_ Enterprise. _And a real theme of this show is where do these characters end up in the end."_

From here: [Sonya Gomez | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Sonya_Gomez)

Her ship appears to be an upgraded _Excelsior_ (the _Excelsiors_ were always favorites of mine): [Obena class | Memory Alpha | Fandom](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Obena_class)

> [@gdave](#):
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> …[“Cetacean Ops” is actually a previously established element of Star Trek canon](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Cetacean_Ops). It’s mentioned in dialogue in an episode of TNG, and in another episode Geordi mentions dolphins being on board. And the official, quasi-canon blueprints for “the D” released in 1996 contain a full cetacean navigation lab and cetacean lifeboats…

One of the dolphin crewmembers of the _Enterprise_-D is also a secondary character in Diane Duane’s excellent TNG novel _Dark Mirror_.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/291 "2021-10-23T14:37:51Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Her ship appears to be an upgraded _Excelsior_

Wouldn’t that be an incredibly old class of ship in STLD? Excelsior was rolled out at some point prior to Star Trek III The Search For Spock, and so by the time we meet Mariner, Boimler et al., that class has been kicking around for a century.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/292 "2021-10-23T15:00:43Z")

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Excelsior-class was regularly seen in Star Trek TNG and DS9. It’s well established as a sort of “workhorse” class that had lasted a long, long time; presumably it was upgraded with “modern” technology as time advanced.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/293 "2021-10-25T11:33:50Z")

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Its supposed to be a different class.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/294 "2021-10-25T11:56:10Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Excelsior-class was regularly seen in Star Trek TNG and DS9. It’s well established as a sort of “workhorse” class that had lasted a long, long time; presumably it was upgraded with “modern” technology as time advanced.

I also liked how they used it very early on to establish the size of the new Enterprise. When we first saw the original Excelsior, it made the original Enterprise look kind of small, then we see the Enterprise-D is quite a bit larger than another Excelsior class ship. Take that, Excelsior!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/295 "2021-10-25T12:20:30Z")

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If so, it’s clearly an evolution of the Excelsior class. Which is fine, and in keeping with historical naval trends – quality ship designs are utilized for as long as they continue to be useful, which can be many decades or more.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/296 "2021-10-25T13:13:14Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Excelsior-class was regularly seen in Star Trek TNG and DS9. It’s well established as a sort of “workhorse” class that had lasted a long, long time; presumably it was upgraded with “modern” technology as time advanced.

It’s the C-130 Hercules of starships.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/297 "2021-10-25T13:46:15Z")

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And as such, in _excellent_ company.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/298 "2022-04-09T22:12:30Z")

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> **[Watch: Teaser Trailer For ‘Star Trek: Lower Decks’ Season 3](https://trekmovie.com/2022/04/09/watch-teaser-trailer-for-star-trek-lower-decks-season-3/)**
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> We also have a new poster for season 3.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/299 "2022-04-09T22:24:52Z")

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Is that Ensign Peanut Hamper?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/300 "2022-04-10T00:49:52Z")

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Peanut Hamper is a STUPID NAME!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/301 "2022-04-12T18:40:11Z")

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It is… but I’m looking forward to S3, whenever it finally airs.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/302 "2022-04-12T19:23:59Z")

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By the way, the Season 2 episode “wej Duj” (“Three Ships”) is a Hugo Award finalist

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