# Star Trek Lower Decks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340 "2020-07-14T21:53:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/583 "2024-11-09T05:08:08Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > I’ve seen enough to disagree with key directions. Like what they did with the Gorn and missing key concepts in their redoing of Balance of Terror. SNW is explicitly (to me, anyhow; your Trek may vary) an alternate universe. There is an episode early in season 2 where they encounter another legacy character and someone points out that these events were supposed to have taken place decades ago but temporal shenanigans have caused a delay. Despite this, history finds its way back to where it is supposed to be, mostly. What I took from this was that in those places where SNW does not align with previous Trek (even including Disco in some cases), this is not a bug but a feature. Star Trek (2009) had a similar bit where the bridge crew has a discussion about how they are an alternate universe. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/584 "2024-11-09T06:17:27Z")
Whenever you notice an inconsistentcy like that, a Q did it. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/585 "2024-11-09T08:04:32Z")
Also I’ve noted several times that ENT ep 1 completely upends the timeline we’ve seen since 1966-ST Nemesis. The ENT Mirror ep also upends THEIR timeline and contaminates any interactions with the Prime timeline after. Namely DISCO…that said at least DISCO Mirror universe was very consistent with a timeline that had access to a Constitution class vessel 100 years ago. They conquered the galaxy. They had some kind of ‘mini sun’ drive?? Good on them. But I think watching SNW as an alt timeline will help me wrap my head around it without the nitpickers in the back of my head ruining my viewing. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/586 "2024-11-10T03:46:57Z")
If you like comics, there is a new Choose Your Own Adventure Lower Decks graphic novel called Warp Your Own Way. I just started it and it’s not bad. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/587 "2024-11-10T16:48:38Z")
Don’t like to double post but I finished the Choose Your Own Adventure comic and it was really good. Had that LD goodness where they expand on past Trek stuff but actually do something with it and not just say " Remember that!" Without spoiling anything I will say they do cheat a little because there is a tangent in the CYOA that as best as I can tell you can’t start unless you cheat and read ahead. But given the structure of the story and the fact that they early on make a joke about reading ahead I am guessing this was by design (but it is possible I missed something). ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/588 "2024-11-14T23:52:07Z")
Does anyone else find it hilarious that Dr Migleemo’s home planet is called Klowahka? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/589 "2024-11-15T00:52:17Z")
Yes. At least to smile level! ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/590 "2024-11-15T11:55:51Z")
> [@simster](#): > > V’ger I had a good laugh at the credits alone when V’Ger appeared. ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/591 "2024-11-15T12:06:00Z")
[quote=“Quimby, post:575, topic:915340, full:true”] My main issue with SNW is that the characters act like teenagers and not adults but otherwise, the writing and acting is not bad.[/quote] I suppose you can’t have this Enterprise crew acting like the 60s Enterprise crew, but I miss Starfleet vessels having competent grownups on board. > [@Quimby](#): > > I literally hated Mariner until they fixed her The character developed into something better over time, but I still skipped most of season 1 because of them. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/592 "2024-11-15T14:52:03Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > There is an episode early in season 2 where they encounter another legacy character and someone points out that these events were supposed to have taken place decades ago but temporal shenanigans have caused a delay. I think that was the eugenics wars that resulted in Khan being exiled, which in TOS are said to have happened in the 1990s. They gave themselves a few more decades before they’ll have to kick the can again. Honestly, with a franchise as varied and unwieldy as Trek, I’ve thoroughly given up trying to reconcile it all in my head. If the show is fun, I watch it. I don’t care all that much if SNW tweaks the canon as long as it remains enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/593 "2024-11-16T11:05:59Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > If you like comics, there is a new Choose Your Own Adventure Lower Decks graphic novel called Warp Your Own Way. I just started it and it’s not bad. I started reading that and within a couple of branches rediscovered how much I loathe the choose-your-own-adventure format. Simply have no tolerance for it whatsoever. So I just read it straight through, and got a trippy non-linear experience that I completely enjoyed. It went surprisingly dark with copying a plot device from _Doctor Who_ and _Future Man_ and _Rouge Moon_ and likely other things not coming to mind at the moment (The term “choose your own adventure” must be trademarked. At one point the story mentions “One of those ‘adventure is chosen by you’ kind of things”.) ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/594 "2024-11-16T12:16:24Z")
It was also a little bit like the movie The Prestige. ---
**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/595 "2024-11-16T17:40:02Z")
It’s the whale talkin’ probe from ST IV, is it not? Unless v’ger is there too and I missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/596 "2024-11-16T20:42:31Z")
> [@gregorio](#): > > Unless v’ger is there too and I missed it. It’s there behind everything else, in it’s huge cloud form. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/597 "2024-11-17T22:09:08Z")
I liked the reappearance of the gratuitously sexy decontamination gel from ST: Enterprise. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/598 "2024-11-18T20:06:06Z")
I feel bad that it’s apparently what T’Pol is known for 230 years later. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/599 "2024-11-19T09:49:44Z")
I mean, [truth in naming](https://teepol.co.uk/) and all that… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/600 "2024-11-21T21:51:20Z")
5.6 - Of Gods and Angles Show is definitely not as good as it used to be. The Romeo & Juliet twist was pretty obvious ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/601 "2024-11-29T01:46:58Z")
5.7 Fully Dilated I liked this one! And what’s not to like? Data is back! ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340/602 "2024-11-29T15:32:37Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > I liked this one! Yeah, this has been a pretty good season so far. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-lower-decks/915340.md?page=31)