# Star Trek Movies:  Your Opinions Please

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 8, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115 "2009-06-08T17:41:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/41 "2009-06-09T17:19:34Z")

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As a Star Trek fan, I put **First Contact** at the top, followed by **Wrath of Khan**. I qualify that, because I agree with the earlier comment that Khan might stand on its own better to a non-fan.

**First Contact** wins for several reasons, one of which is the funny moments were few, but really worked well.

I always loved Data jumping down and being riddled with machine gun bullets. Then he turns around and takes a few more rounds, looks up and smiles warmly. “Greetings!”

And the Lt. Barkely cameo was unexpected and funny.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/42 "2009-06-09T17:22:12Z")

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Data also announces in that movie that he’s disconnecting his emotion chip before going into a scary battle against the Borg, and Picard says, “There are times when I envy you, Mr. Data.” 😃

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/43 "2009-06-09T18:32:32Z")

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> [@Mach Tuck](#):
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> As a Star Trek fan, I put **First Contact** at the top, followed by **Wrath of Khan**. I qualify that, because I agree with the earlier comment that Khan might stand on its own better to a non-fan.
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> **First Contact** wins for several reasons, one of which is the funny moments were few, but really worked well.
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> I always loved Data jumping down and being riddled with machine gun bullets. Then he turns around and takes a few more rounds, looks up and smiles warmly. “Greetings!”
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> And the Lt. Barkely cameo was unexpected and funny.

On the other hand, there was drunk Troi. _shudder_

“Wrath of Khan” had plenty of funny moments as well, although its humor was more understated (and consequently funnier, IMO):

-The Kirk/Bones banter after the Kobayashi Maru (“What about my performance?”)  
-“‘It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.’ Message, Spock?” “None that I am aware of - except, of course, happy birthday.”  
-McCoy’s riffing on the “Beware of Greek bearing gifts” line  
-Kirk muttering “I hate inspections” (and then later cutting the actual inspection short after about two minutes so he can go check out the bridge)  
-Spock’s wry “That is wise” after Kirk declines to argue against his logic  
-McCoy sputtering “You green-blooded, inhuman…”

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/44 "2009-06-09T18:44:36Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> -The Kirk/Bones banter after the Kobayashi Maru (“What about my performance?”)  
> -“‘It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.’ Message, Spock?” “None that I am aware of - except, of course, happy birthday.”  
> -McCoy’s riffing on the “Beware of Greek bearing gifts” line  
> -Kirk muttering “I hate inspections” (and then later cutting the actual inspection short after about two minutes so he can go check out the bridge)  
> -Spock’s wry “That is wise” after Kirk declines to argue against his logic  
> -McCoy sputtering “You green-blooded, inhuman…”

OMG, you omitted the funniest _Star Trek_ line ever:

**Kirk**  
Mr. Scott, you’re well?

**Scott**  
Aye. I had a wee bout, but Dr. McCoy pulled me through.

**Kirk**  
A wee bout?

**McCoy** _[sotto voce]_  
Shore leave, Admiral.

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**Author:** ![Carnacki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Carnacki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnacki)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/45 "2009-06-09T18:44:42Z")

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The Undiscovered Country is my favorite. Perhaps because it includes the most important decision Kirk ever made: “We surrender!!” That scene gives me goosebumps.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/46 "2009-06-09T19:06:29Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> OMG, you omitted the funniest _Star Trek_ line ever:

And, here, I was going to suggest that he omitted **this** line:

**Saavik:** You lied!

**Spock:** I exaggerated.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/47 "2009-06-09T19:26:06Z")

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Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country are my two favorites. It’s no coincidence that they were both directed by Nicholas Meyer.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/48 "2009-06-09T19:30:16Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> On the other hand, there was drunk Troi. _shudder_

Actually, I liked that bit (including the deleted part where Troi goes all cougar and asks where Wesley is), thought I didn’t like the overall film

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/49 "2009-06-10T02:00:59Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> The old rule for geeks - sadly outdated since the death of DOS: “odd numbered DOSes - even numbered Star Trek movies.”

This year’s [Star Trek](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/) movie was “Star Trek Zero”, so the even number rule for Trek movies holds. For now. 😃 (Why, yes, I am a geek!)

My rough ranking:

1. The Wrath of Khan June 4, 1982 (2)
2. The Undiscovered Country December 6, 1991 (6)
3. First Contact November 22, 1996 (8)
4. The Voyage Home November 26, 1986 (4)
5. The Search for Spock June 1, 1984 (3)
6. Star Trek:The Motion Picture December 7, 1979 (1)
7. Insurrection December 11, 1998 (9)
8. Generations November 18, 1994 (7)
9. Nemesis December 13, 2002 (10)
10. The Final Frontier June 9, 1989 (5)

OK, the even rule isn’t perfect, but it’s not bad. I’d rate ST 2009 in the top 3. A fun movie, and a great reboot of the series. I liked that ST 2009

did not use its time-travel plot to undo all of the bad stuff that happened, like the destruction of Vulcan.

Gutsy move, IMO.

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/50 "2009-06-10T04:01:30Z")

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I bought Nemesis today. It was the first time I had seen it in years. I enjoyed it. I would rank the movies, but I’ve never seen 1, 3, and 5 and I haven’t seen Insurrection since it came out. I’ve seen all the rest in the last month though.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/51 "2009-06-10T04:31:17Z")

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2 The Wrath of Khan June 4, 1982

4 The Voyage Home November 26, 1986

11 Star Trek

6 The Undiscovered Country December 6, 1991

8 First Contact November 22, 1996

3 The Search for Spock June 1, 1984

1 Star Trek:The Motion Picture December 7, 1979

7 Generations November 18, 1994

9 Insurrection December 11, 1998

10 Nemesis December 13, 2002

5 The Final Frontier June 9, 1989

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/52 "2009-06-10T13:37:42Z")

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> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#):
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> I bought Nemesis today. It was the first time I had seen it in years. I enjoyed it.

Didja like how upset Picard was when his clone died?  
He was beside himself.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-movies-your-opinions-please/499115/53 "2009-06-10T14:08:10Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Didja like how upset Picard was when his clone died?  
> He was beside himself.

There’s a warrant around here somewhere…

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