# Star Trek Nemesis: I saw no wedding **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 1, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998 "2003-09-01T18:34:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/1 "2003-09-01T18:34:51Z")
I have seen it written in many places that Troi and Riker got married in “Star Trek: Nemesis”. But I never saw such a scene. Was it deleted or did I miss something? There was a scene at the beginning of the movie where Picard gave a toast and Data sang. I do not believe that was the wedding, for at least two reasons: (1) Picard told them that they could still back out. (2) Much conversation (in that scene and later) concerned the ceremony to be held later on Betazed. Some might suggest that there were _two_ ceremonies, the first of which was the one mentioned above. I disagree for two reasons: If so, Picard’s comment that they could still change their minds would make no sense. And I did not notice anything to explicitly say that it really was a wedding to begin with. Granted that they were all dressed in their formal attire, but it might have been a rehearsal dinner or something else. Yes, there was a point where (following Betazed tradition) Picard referred to Will as “Mr. Troi”, but that could easily be understood as joking about his future title. I didn’t bother to count how many times in the film he continued to be called “Riker”. Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/2 "2003-09-01T18:40:07Z")
I thought they might have filmed it, but the deleted scene (?) didn’t show up on the DVD. The real ceremony was to be held on Betazed, as you noted. The “Mr. Troi” comment was a joke. I did feel ripped off, though. Many of us had been looking forward to the nuptials for years. ---
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/3 "2003-09-01T18:44:19Z")
Thanks, vivalostwages, I feel vindicated. Looking forward to see if their are any other viewpoints on the topic… ---
**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/4 "2003-09-01T19:12:49Z")
Wouldn’t everyone be naked at the nuptials, though? Maybe that’s why not show the actual wedding. I remembered some sort of ceremony at the start, but I’m not sure what exactly it was… and I remember thinking “This can’t be the wedding, nobody’s naked!” ---
**Author:** ![Keeve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Keeve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keeve)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/5 "2003-09-01T19:22:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mearl Dox \* > **Wouldn’t everyone be naked at the nuptials, though? Maybe that’s why not show the actual wedding.** Not a problem. IIRC, they handled it okay on tv at Mrs. Troi’s remarriage, by means of careful photography and strategically placed objects to obscure anything that the censors (a.k.a. “Broadcast Standards” people) would object to. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/6 "2003-09-01T19:23:08Z")
I always took it as a wedding, myself. People have been known to have two marriage ceremonies when they have numerous people they want at their bonding but can’t invite them all to one particular place for one reason or another. ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/7 "2003-09-01T19:27:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mearl Dox \* > \*\*Wouldn’t everyone be naked at the nuptials, though? Maybe that’s why not show the actual wedding. I remembered some sort of ceremony at the start, but I’m not sure what exactly it was… and I remember thinking “This can’t be the wedding, nobody’s naked!” \*\* I believe that the nekkidness was going to occur at the upcoming ceremony on Betazed. Wasn’t there a joke about Worf refusing to get naked for that ceremony? My impression was that there were two ceremonies… the Terran ceremony was where we saw Picard toasting and Data singing. The Betazed ceremony was what they were on their way to, when they were interrupted by plot complications. It basically served as a good excuse to have most of the old crew all together again. ---
**Author:** ![Lobelia\_Overhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@Lobelia\_Overhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobelia_Overhill)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/8 "2003-09-01T20:08:13Z")
I thought the bit at the start was the Terran wedding reception, to be followed at a later date by a traditional Betazoid ceremony … ---
**Author:** ![Thranduil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@Thranduil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thranduil)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/9 "2003-09-04T13:27:39Z")
From what I understood, there was a traditional “human” wedding on Earth, and they would go to Betazed for the Religious ceremony. What you saw in the movie was the Reception after the Human wedding. My favorite part of that scene was Whoopie Goldburg and her comment on being married 5 times ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/10 "2003-09-04T16:47:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Thranduil \* > \*\*My favorite part of that scene was Whoopie Goldburg and her comment on being married 5 times \*\* My own favourite part was Wil Wheaton, not talking. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2003, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/11 "2003-09-04T19:01:41Z")
I thought Whoopie’s line was something like “I stopped at 23.” ---
**Author:** ![Muldoon\_s\_Squishiness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/13edae/32.png) [@Muldoon\_s\_Squishiness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muldoon_s_Squishiness)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/12 "2003-09-05T00:36:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*My own favourite part was Wil Wheaton, not talking. \*\* Someone’s got some semi-serious issues.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/13 "2003-09-05T02:51:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Muldoon’s Squishiness \* > \*\*Someone’s got some semi-serious issues.:rolleyes: \*\* Uh, I guess that would be you. A general dislike of the character Wheaton played is common among _Star Trek_ fans, and _Nemesis_ had a weak enough story without throwing in some irrelevant Wesley tangent. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-i-saw-no-wedding/198998/14 "2003-09-05T04:06:34Z")
> [@](#): > > I believe that the nekkidness was going to occur at the upcoming ceremony on Betazed. Wasn’t there a joke about Worf refusing to get naked for that ceremony? > > My impression was that there were two ceremonies… the Terran ceremony was where we saw Picard toasting and Data singing. The Betazed ceremony was what they were on their way to, when they were interrupted by plot complications. It basically served as a good excuse to have most of the old crew all together again. That’s right. Although I thought it was even funnier when Picard mentioned something about going to Betazed for the wedding, and then leaves the bridge, saying “I’ll be in the gym.”