# Star Trek: Nemesis !!! SPOILER !!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 25, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896 "2002-12-25T22:35:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hawthorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hawthorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawthorn)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/1 "2002-12-25T22:35:58Z")

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Ok I’m a Star Trek fan I admit, I have one question about the latest movie though, WHY DID THEY KILL DATA???  
Is Brent Spiner looking to get out?  
Any help would be nice.  
Thanks!!!  
P.S. didn’t like seeing my dad cry when they blew Data to dust.

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**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/2 "2002-12-25T22:43:55Z")

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Off to Cafe Society.

**DrMatrix** - General Questions Moderator

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/3 "2002-12-25T22:49:40Z")

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Nice spoiler.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/4 "2002-12-25T22:53:46Z")

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Oh! $#!+ I should not have read this.

**Hawthorn** thanks for ruining the movie for me.

Couldn’t you put it is a spoiler box or at least warn us first!

[Mental note], move Hawthorn to top of $#!+ list[/mental note]

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/5 "2002-12-25T23:12:09Z")

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I guess I’ll join the list of people who have had the film ruined - merry Christmas

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**Author:** ![Hawthorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hawthorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawthorn)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/6 "2002-12-25T23:38:18Z")

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Thank you to Dr. Matrix for changing the subject line oon this thread. Was not my intention to ruin the movie for anyone I am very sorry, I typed before I thought.

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**Author:** ![Hawthorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hawthorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawthorn)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/7 "2002-12-25T23:38:26Z")

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Thank you to Dr. Matrix for changing the subject line on this thread. Was not my intention to ruin the movie for anyone I am very sorry, I typed before I thought.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/8 "2002-12-25T23:51:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hawthorn \*  
> \*\*Thank you to Dr. Matrix for changing the subject line on this thread. Was not my intention to ruin the movie for anyone I am very sorry, I typed before I thought. \*\*

He didn’t. I did. Don’t do it again.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/9 "2002-12-25T23:55:13Z")

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Alot has already been said [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149657)  
But, more could be discused, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![lynn73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/10 "2002-12-26T00:23:59Z")

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I kind of think I know but could someone please tell me exactly what a spoiler is?

Also they may have killed off Data but I think they also left themelves with an opening to bring him back if they want to. After all, they have the prototype android called “Before” and Data did do some downloading from himself to the other android.  
Perhaps they just need to find where exactly the download went to. I’m sure they can legitimatlely bring him back, if they decide to make more movies and want him back.

But then, they split up the team in other ways too, so maybe they don’t intend to make more movies, who knows?

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**Author:** ![lynn73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/11 "2002-12-26T00:25:38Z")

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Uh, sorry if I wasn’t supposed to reveal that info about the movie. What is a spoiler box and how do you access it to use?  
I’m dumb, what can I say?

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/12 "2002-12-26T00:28:58Z")

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You son of a b\*\*\*\*.

Learn to use the spoiler code. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Hawthorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a4c791/32.png) [@Hawthorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawthorn)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/13 "2002-12-26T00:38:51Z")

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In that case thank you Eutychus for changing that over.  
as for you Maud’Dib the Thread line said that this was a spoiler BEFORE you viewed it so it’s not my fault that you looked at it.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/14 "2002-12-26T00:44:48Z")

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to post a spoiler:

use the 's

in front of point you are about to make (PYAATM) type in _spoiler_ in between the [and the].

at the end of PYJM (point you just made), type in / then the word _spoiler_, no spaces between / and _spoiler_, all in between [and]

no spaces

or make it REAL big in the thread title

sabe?

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**Author:** ![SC\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@SC\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/15 "2002-12-26T00:54:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by His4ever \*  
> **I kind of think I know but could someone please tell me exactly what a spoiler is?**

A spoiler is information about something that would spoil someone else’s enjoyment of said thing.

Giving away a plot twist or ending to a movie/book/videogame to someone who hasn’t watched/read/played.

Telling someone who videotaped The Big Game to watch later because they were at work what the final score was.

That sort of thing.

The obligatory SDMB Simpsons reference would be Homer walking out of Empire Strikes Back past the line of people waiting to see the next showing, and saying, “Darth Vader was Luke’s father?! Who would have seen that coming?”

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/16 "2002-12-26T00:57:03Z")

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Okay, if we’re done hijacking this into a discussion about spoiler tags, is there any further discussion about the OP?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/17 "2002-12-26T01:06:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eutychus \*  
> \*\*Okay, if we’re done hijacking this into a discussion about spoiler tags, is there any further discussion about the OP? \*\*

Sorry. I was busy previewing the rushes of _Star Trek XI - The Wrath of Shatner_. (It’s pretty bad)

For the OP: I think Spiner will be in another _Star Trek_ movie. Unless _Enterprise_ utterly fails as a series. Then, the franchise may just die. All versions of it. JMHO 😃

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/18 "2002-12-26T01:15:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Sorry. I was busy previewing the rushes of _Star Trek XI - The Wrath of Shatner_. (It’s pretty bad)
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> For the OP: I think Spiner will be in another _Star Trek_ movie. Unless _Enterprise_ utterly fails as a series. Then, the franchise may just die. All versions of it. JMHO 😃 \*\*

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NOOOOOOOOOO! DS9 and Voyager never had great ratings (for that matter, did TNG?), and some of the VOY stories weren’t that great, but they kept them on for years anyway. ENT is only in the middle of its second season, anyhow.  
\*\*Star Trek XII: B4 and the Secrets of the Tellarites \*\*, looks to be pretty decent. 😉

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/19 "2002-12-26T01:16:04Z")

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To use spoilers:

the following words will be put in a spoiler {spoiler} I think this whole thread should be condemed {/spoiler}

but you have to use [for { and] for } to get to work:

the following words will be put in a spoiler I think this whole thread should be condemed

**or**

you can use the old tryed and true method of:

I am a startrek fan but something I must ask (warning major movie spoiler ahead)  
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ok you asked for it  
Data Dies in this movie…

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2002, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-spoiler/144896/20 "2002-12-26T01:26:50Z")

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Who is _Data Dies_?

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