# Star Trek Nemesis Trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 27, 2002, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286 "2002-06-27T23:03:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/1 "2002-06-27T23:03:58Z")
If anyone’s interested, the last trailer for what should, mercifully, be the last _NextGen_ film is up at Apple’s QuickTime site: [Star Trek Nemesis trailer](http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/star_trek_nemesis/) Check it out if you’re interested. Requires QuickTime 5. Kirk ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/2 "2002-06-27T23:05:37Z")
I tried like hell to watch it earlier today, but the QuickTime and my comp don’t get along too well. It takes forever just to advance for a second or so, then stops. So…would you be willing to provide a trailer spoiler, puh-leeeeeze? ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/3 "2002-06-27T23:28:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \* > \*\*I tried like hell to watch it earlier today, but the QuickTime and my comp don’t get along too well. It takes forever just to advance for a second or so, then stops. So…would you be willing to provide a trailer spoiler, puh-leeeeeze? \*\* I don’t suppose I need to use the spoiler tag for this, since everyone coming in here would no doubt see it. Looks like your basic TNG movie - good effects, the Enterprise looks cooler. Beyond that, it appears that Data has either created another Data or activated Lor, couldn’t tell which, and it also apperas that ::shudder:: Picard is going to have a sex scene. I didn’t recognize the villian race - the bad guy kinda looks like Max Schrek. There was a brief shot of Marina Sirtis, looking fantastic as ever, also a quick shot of Worf, but I didn’t see Beverley, Riker or Geordi. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/4 "2002-06-27T23:51:55Z")
I think it looks rockin’! The Vampire Romulans look like monster goons from some horror movie, but all the setting elements make it look like they spend a lot of time trying to make it seem like they are “boldly going where no one has gone before,” and not just to the local dairy queen. ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/5 "2002-06-28T00:13:25Z")
1. That’s B-9, a prototype of Data, in the trailer. 2. The sex scene doesn’t include Picard, that’s Shinzon (the bad guy). 3. The bad guys are Remans, the goon-like Romulans from the slave-moon of Romulus. Their leader is Shinzon… [/spoilers]Who is not a Reman, he’s human.[/spoilers] ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/6 "2002-06-28T00:48:14Z")
Beverley was in there, but if you blink you’ll miss her. Looks different. Really heavy on the CG effects, but that’s expected (just makes the older movies look so shitty). What get’s me the most is that they’re implying that this is the **final** NextGen movie, i.e. the final Star Trek movie?!? Star Trek is the second most successful film franchise ever (behind James Bond) and they’re ending it?!? Somehow, I doubt that. Are they implying, what, a Voyager movie next?! Excuse me- \*\* HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! \*\* I doubt (and shudder to even think about) that too. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/7 "2002-06-28T00:55:52Z")
> [@](#): > > a Voyager movie next?! Well, it WILL be an odd number film… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/8 "2002-06-28T01:11:38Z")
I do believe that they’ve discussed more movies, but using assorted characters, some from DS9, Voy and TNG. Though they’ll probably ditch DS9, and put Troi (the most annoying TNG regular) and Wesley on Voyager and call that their “new crew.” Kirk ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/9 "2002-06-28T01:51:26Z")
One disturbing scene: Picard (I think) 4-wheelin’ in the desert in a freakin’ Federation-issue SUV! ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/10 "2002-06-28T03:49:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Blue Sky \* > \*\*One disturbing scene: > > Picard (I think) 4-wheelin’ in the desert in a freakin’ Federation-issue SUV! \*\* * * * Please tell me you’re joking. Or else that had better be one fantabulous warp-five SUV! ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/11 "2002-06-28T04:17:18Z")
I just checked the imdb, and Kate Mulgrew makes an appearance…as Admiral Janeway. SHe went up in rank pretty damn quick! (for reference, the imdb trivia section says this takes place four years after Insurrection, which is what? Three years tops after Voyager made it back home?) ---
**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/12 "2002-06-28T04:57:53Z")
POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT One of the rumors is that Picard is going to die in this one, which would explain why it would be the last. And definite spoiler, Riker and Troi get married. It was on Entertainment Tonight.j I thought the Remans were from Remus, like Remus and Romulas, you know? And this is the twin planet to where the Romulans are from. ---
**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/13 "2002-06-28T05:04:12Z")
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER From [IMDB.COM](http://IMDB.COM) > [@](#): > > On their way to Riker’s and Troy’s honeymoon, the Enterprise is sent near the neutral zone to Romulan space, and picks up a prototypic twin of android Data. Immediately they are further sent to Romulus, where a new praetor, Shinzon, a half-Reman cloned from Captain Picard, appears to want peace with the Federation. But then the crew detects a break-in on their computer systems, and Picard is captured by the Romulans because Shinzon needs him as his only matching supplier of genetic material. Picard and the Enterprise can escape, only to find themselves battling Shinzons completely cloaked Warbird, who is after the complete destruction of earth. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/14 "2002-06-28T05:13:40Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Kirkland1244 \* > \*\* > 2) The sex scene doesn’t include Picard, that’s Shinzon (the bad guy)._\* DAMN!!! (Sorry, but I lust after Picard) ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bad\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_Hat)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/15 "2002-06-28T05:41:37Z")
amazing how Data’s “prototypic twin” is geting just as wrinkly and bloated as the real Data, Now we know it’s in his programming… and not just hard livin’. 😃 CJ ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/16 "2002-06-28T12:58:27Z")
I don’t know, the CG looks interesting but it looks more like a Lucas thing than Star Trek. I mean people get down on the older effects but I still find miniatures are convincing if done right. Let’s hope this is a good one. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/17 "2002-06-28T13:47:54Z")
Vivalostwages: Try [section31.com](http://section31.com) to download an MPEG file of the trailer. ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/18 "2002-06-28T13:50:25Z")
Janeway was an Admiral at the end of Voyager, was she not? Granted, there was the time-thing, but one would imagine she got promoted anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/19 "2002-06-28T14:00:19Z")
I think it has a darker look then other Trek films (save First Contact) This really looks like an action film. I hope it is. I have heard the Wesley shows up at the wedding. But, In the series wasn’t **SPOCK** on Romulos at the end? Will he make an appearence in the film? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286/20 "2002-06-28T14:10:11Z")
Trek does some thing differently from the Royal Navy; Commodore Decker was a rank rather than a teporary command, and promotion seems to be a reward for actions rather than from time in service. Why do you suppose TPTB killed Voyager and DS9 as movies? Not everyone hated Voyager and I though DS9 to be the best trek ever…well, not Kirk, or course, but better than Picard moralizing and drinking tea while he watched the natives on the viewscreeen kill and eat each other rather than violate the prime directive. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-trailer/116286.md?page=2)