# Star Trek Nemesis: Whoopi snubbed? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 31, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-whoopi-snubbed/247881 "2004-05-31T02:58:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-whoopi-snubbed/247881/21 "2004-06-01T00:01:59Z")
Back to Whoopi Goldberg - I suspect that, because she was technically the biggest celebrity in the Star Trek films in which she appeared, she was entitled to top billing, and so declined credit because she was not the star of the show. That would simply be a matter of Whoopi being polite - not wanting her name to overshadow the Star Trek franchise. Another possibility is that, because she has played the lead character in quite a few movies, taking less than top billing in Star Trek would be seen by those who care as a step down in status, and so going uncredited is preferable to taking less than top billing. Of course, she was always billed as a “guest star” when she appeared on the TV show, but that’s a whole different set of rules I suppose. Here’s something I wonder - in Star Trek:TNG, her character Guinan always has her head covered, hiding her hair. I wonder if this is done because, in all of her other roles, she has essentially played herself (much like Jack Nicholson always plays Jack Nicholson), and her distinctive hair is sort of a trademark. Hiding that trademark hair effectively ensures that Guinan’s character is not Whoopi - again keeping her star status from overshadowing Star Trek. Her demeanor as Guinan is distinctily different from her demeanor in all her other roles as well. I know that, when I’ve watched Whoopi’s other movies, I’m always fully aware that I’m watching “Whoopi Goldberg”. But when I watch Star Trek, I never look at Guinan as Whoopi. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-whoopi-snubbed/247881/22 "2004-06-01T00:12:58Z")
> [@Glory](#): > > Sorry, I’m not talking about whether or not he will be credited in Ocean’s 12. I was responding to Otto’s statement that Don Cheadle chose to be uncredited due to his anger at the director. I don’t think it’s very likely that he chose to be uncredited in Ocean’s 11 because he was angry at the director, considering he signed up to do a second film with the same person. > > I am curious, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the reason. Well, I’m only going by what I remember hearing and I’ll cheerfully admit if I’m wrong. But, hurt feelings can certainly be soothed by merry potfuls of cash, which may be an explanation for why Cheadle would sign on for an O-11 sequel. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-whoopi-snubbed/247881/23 "2004-06-01T01:05:24Z")
From imdb archives… > [@](#): > > **No Credit In Ocean’s Ads For Cheadle** > 14 December 2001 (StudioBriefing) > Although Don Cheadle received no screen for the billboard and newspaper ads for Ocean’s Eleven – he was reportedly angered over the fact that his name was not included alongside the film’s biggest stars’ – he has participated in all of the major publicity events involving the film with those stars, including a Barbara Walters’ TV special, the Wall Street Journal observed today (Friday). > **[Ocean's Eleven (2001) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240772/externalsites)** > > Ocean's Eleven (2001) official sites, and other sites with posters, videos, photos and more. Clooney, Damon, Pitt and Roberts I can see. But Andy Garcia??? Eh. So – my take: apparently pissed because Garcia made the cut in the billboard, poster and newspaper ad campaign and he didn’t, Cheadle pulled his name from the film credits but participated in the rest of the publicity. So he wasn’t mad at the director. Cheadle’s name is on the poster for Ocean’s Twelve. However, it seems Bernie Mac has apparently been bumped to the top tier 6, if I’m reading the Ocean’s Twelve credits on imdb correctly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-nemesis-whoopi-snubbed/247881.md?page=1)