# Star Trek: Picard discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 14, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529 "2019-06-14T22:58:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/201 "2019-10-18T15:56:49Z")

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That’s exactly why I mentioned Guinan. Although their relationship was never articulated, Picard did lean heavily on Guinan for advice and emotional support. He trusted her word even more at times than he did Troi’s. And of course, he sought her advice on the Borg, since Guinan’s civilization was destroyed and her people were scattered through space by them.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/202 "2019-10-18T16:26:47Z")

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Maybe there could be a Picard/Guinan/Twain reunion.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/203 "2019-10-18T16:37:47Z")

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Guinan is supposed to be immortal, or near as much so as to make no difference. I haven’t seen Whoopi lately - does she look the same she did 25 years ago?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/204 "2019-10-18T17:03:18Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Guinan is supposed to be immortal, or near as much so as to make no difference. I haven’t seen Whoopi lately - does she look the same she did 25 years ago?

[Not right now she doesn’t](https://www.oprahmag.com/entertainment/a29112101/whoopi-goldberg-gray-hair/).

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/205 "2019-10-18T17:32:57Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Not right now she doesn’t](https://www.oprahmag.com/entertainment/a29112101/whoopi-goldberg-gray-hair/).

She dyed her hair for a role. Here’s how she looked back in July of this year.

[![](https://static.spin.com/files/2019/07/GettyImages-1152314646-1562614100-828x552.jpg) ](https://static.spin.com/files/2019/07/GettyImages-1152314646-1562614100-828x552.jpg)

There’s no reason to believe she couldn’t be made up to look like Guinan again. After all, Brent Spiner wanted Data to die, because “androids don’t age, but actors do,” yet he’s agreed to play Data once again.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/206 "2019-10-18T17:48:13Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> She dyed her hair for a role.

If only it had made that clear in the article that I linked. Oh, wait, it did.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/207 "2019-10-18T19:43:15Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> If only it had made that clear in the article that I linked. Oh, wait, it did.

And I’m making it clear if she can look one way for one role, she can look differently for another role.

Sheesh. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/208 "2019-10-18T20:14:57Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Guinan is supposed to be immortal, or near as much so as to make no difference. I haven’t seen Whoopi lately - does she look the same she did 25 years ago?

She’s not immortal; El-Aurians live for several hundred years though. So she definitely could still be hanging around, tending bar on some Orion garbage scow somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/209 "2019-10-18T21:39:04Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> And I’m making it clear if she can look one way for one role, she can look differently for another role.
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> Sheesh. :rolleyes:

And I was observing what she looks like _ **right now** _ at this very moment, not making a claim that “she has aged to the point of being grey and can never modify her appearance again,” assuming that anyone who clicked the link would be capable of comprehending that it was a look for a role by the process of reading the words in the article.

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/210 "2019-10-18T21:51:07Z")

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Yours is a valid observation _as long as people click the link_. Not everybody will. I was making the observation for those who don’t click links.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/211 "2019-10-19T00:59:43Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> There’s no reason to believe she couldn’t be made up to look like Guinan again. After all, Brent Spiner wanted Data to die, because “androids don’t age, but actors do,” yet he’s agreed to play Data once again.

Makeup, shmakeup. I’ll go out on a limb here and guess that CGI can nowadays work wonders in eliminating signs of age.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/212 "2019-10-20T16:12:44Z")

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Sy Fy Wire article. Everything we know so far.

It helped me better understand how these events may tie together.

> **[Everything we know so far about Star Trek: Picard](https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/everything-we-know-so-far-about-star-trek-picard?amp)**
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> Star Trek: Picard will premiere in 2020 on CBS All Access. Here's everything we know about it so far.

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> Over the past few weeks, thanks to SDCC and Star Trek: Las Vegas (the largest annual Star Trek convention), we’ve learned more about what this show will look like and who Jean-Luc Picard has become in the years since the last Star Trek movie, Nemesis. Here’s a rundown of everything we know (and a few things we think we know) about the series Star Trek: Picard, which is set to premiere on CBS All Access in the US sometime in 2020

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/213 "2019-10-20T17:56:37Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Sy Fy Wire article. Everything we know so far.
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> It helped me better understand how these events may tie together.
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> [Everything we know so far about Star Trek: Picard | SYFY WIRE](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.syfy.com/syfywire/everything-we-know-so-far-about-star-trek-picard%3famp)

[https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191020/919be15390c4e1768e7d86188222a77a.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191020/919be15390c4e1768e7d86188222a77a.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/214 "2020-01-23T18:00:51Z")

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And here it be.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/215 "2020-01-23T18:03:52Z")

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Watched it. It has my interest. We shall see.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/216 "2020-01-23T18:28:35Z")

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Patrick Stewart asks Whoopi to appear in Star Trek. She said yes! Guinan will be back for a guest role.  
[https://nerdist.com/article/patrick-stewart-whoopi-goldberg-star-trek-picard/](https://nerdist.com/article/patrick-stewart-whoopi-goldberg-star-trek-picard/)

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/217 "2020-01-23T20:37:54Z")

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Now they just need to invite Gates McFadden to return.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/218 "2020-01-23T21:12:09Z")

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I have reservations about mystery box arcs (They serve the mystery and are gimmicky) and short series (The actors are just props with no time for character evolution)

BUTTTTTTTT…with established characters my distaste is less and this looks interesting

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/219 "2020-01-24T02:41:32Z")

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So i caught the first episode and all you folks who don’t like Discovery are probably going to be ambivalent about this one. Frackin toasters running around

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/220 "2020-01-24T03:07:27Z")

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I liked it, I’m willing to see where it goes.

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