# Star Trek: Picard discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 14, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529 "2019-06-14T22:58:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/221 "2020-01-24T04:52:54Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> So i caught the first episode and all you folks who don’t like Discovery are probably going to be ambivalent about this one. Frackin toasters running around

I’m not a big fan of Discovery but I like Picard so far.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/222 "2020-01-24T06:41:13Z")

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Saw it. Enjoyed it. Good to see Brent Spiner around, even though we saw about that much in the trailer. New storyline looks interesting.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/223 "2020-01-24T12:44:49Z")

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I enjoyed it.

Not sure what’s going on with the ending scene tho’.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/224 "2020-01-24T13:59:20Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Now they just need to invite Gates McFadden to return.

I’ve seen video of her on Comicon Panels with the cast. She seems close with everyone.

I can easily see her returning for a limited role. Maybe a couple episodes?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/225 "2020-01-24T16:08:56Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’ve seen video of her on Comicon Panels with the cast. She seems close with everyone.
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> I can easily see her returning for a limited role. Maybe a couple episodes?

In the STTNG episode, “All Good Things,” Q showed Picard a possible future in which Beverly was in command of a Starfleet medical ship. (Yes, I realize Q was manipulating events. And let’s not have Q return. He should stay away. He could be bothering Janeway instead.) That could be a good way to reintroduce her.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/226 "2020-01-25T05:54:03Z")

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I’m just waiting for Bethesda to poke at them for stealing part of Fallout 4’s plot. (And a sidequest from 3.)😛

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/227 "2020-01-25T22:32:50Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> So i caught the first episode and all you folks who don’t like Discovery are probably going to be ambivalent about this one. Frackin toasters running around

It’s only one toaster now, isn’t it? Unless I missed something. I kept turning the sound up and down.

I like Discovery and I like this! I can’t wait to see Seven. She looks like a complete badass in the season preview at the end.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/228 "2020-01-26T00:09:05Z")

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Toaster?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/229 "2020-01-26T00:41:08Z")

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I hardly knew her.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/230 "2020-01-26T01:14:03Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Toaster?

Yeah, I didn’t catch the reference either.  
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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/231 "2020-01-26T01:17:46Z")

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“Toaster” was the slur used in the remake of _Battlestar Galactica_ for the humanoid cylons. So it refers to realistic androids.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/232 "2020-01-26T01:26:19Z")

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I liked the episode a lot.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/233 "2020-01-26T11:57:22Z")

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I’m surprised there isn’t more discussion of this here. I thought it was great—Picard immediately felt right, still the moral center trying to do what’s right; I had been a little afraid they’d make him jaded, burnt out by his experiences and trying not to get involved, but he’s immediately on the ball. I’m fine with reneging on the Federation’s utopia, that sort of thing just doesn’t really work anymore, but I’m glad to see they seem to want to keep true to Picard’s character. Although I’m not too sure about the reliance on the plot device of things coming to him in a dream; that could get old quick.

So am I right to think that this is the continuation of the timeline we left with the destruction of Romulus’ sun, which led to the Kelvin-timeline?

Anyway, it might just be nostalgia clouding my judgment, but I thought this was a much better beginning than _Discovery_. I hope it holds up!

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**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/234 "2020-01-27T01:30:28Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I enjoyed it.
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> Not sure what’s going on with the ending scene tho’.

My guess is that the Borg now have a way to look like any race they want. Makes infiltration easier. They probably have a piece of Data’s posotronic whatever plot device (Borg Queen took it during ST: First Contact) so they can have human-like emotions.

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**Author:** ![Caldris\_bal\_Comar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Caldris\_bal\_Comar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caldris_bal_Comar)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/235 "2020-01-27T02:07:49Z")

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> [@Yodalicious](#):
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> My guess is that the Borg now have a way to look like any race they want. Makes infiltration easier. They probably have a piece of Data’s posotronic whatever plot device (Borg Queen took it during ST: First Contact) so they can have human-like emotions.

Since when have the Borg been about subtlety? I think it’s more likely to be a Romulan attempt to control Borg tech–the ships were distinctly Romulan. It’ll go up in (probably literal) flames, of course.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/236 "2020-01-27T03:42:41Z")

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I assume the creators of the Synths used Borg tech to fill in what they couldn’t get from B4’s corpse.

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/237 "2020-01-27T13:57:10Z")

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So is the only way to watch this to subscribe to CBS All Access? Seems like it from what I can tell. I’m loathe to pay even more for TV at this point - I already pay for cable, Netflix, Hulu, etc etc.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/238 "2020-01-27T15:27:43Z")

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So Jean Luc **did** make Admiral.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/239 "2020-01-27T15:34:59Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> So Jean Luc **did** make Admiral.

Even Picard had to break eventually.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/240 "2020-01-27T16:09:22Z")

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> [@Athena](#):
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> So is the only way to watch this to subscribe to CBS All Access? Seems like it from what I can tell. I’m loathe to pay even more for TV at this point - I already pay for cable, Netflix, Hulu, etc etc.

You could wait a bit to rent it. A bit to rent.

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