# Star Trek: Picard discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 14, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529 "2019-06-14T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/21 "2019-06-16T03:12:51Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > No, it wasn’t. It was really, really poor. There was plenty on TV at the time that was much better. I almost didn’t continue watching TNG because of that episode (and actually gave up for a couple episodes after that stupid one with Tasha fighting for her life with the death claw). Every show had to have their gladiatorial episode in that era. I wouldn’t be completely shocked if it wasn’t the same writer simply retooling his script for different characters and universe. Babylon 5 had ‘TKO’ with a disgraced boxer fighting in the alien “Mutai” (no shit). ST:Voy had ‘Tsunkatse’, with Seven of Nine forced to fight as a gladiator for their survival. (Guest starring Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson) Fuck, there’s probably a Facts of Life gladiatorial episode. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/22 "2019-06-16T03:13:44Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > _The Orville_ is oldschool TNG, positivity and all. > > Many Trek alumni have guest starred (or even are regular characters) Agreed, Seth Trek is an amazing series, especially the 2 part Kaylon arc “Identity”, it is the Orville’s “Best of Both Worlds” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/23 "2019-06-16T04:20:10Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > \*Encounter at Farpoint \*was better than about 95% of other things on TV at the time. It only looks shabby compared to what came later. Of all the first season episodes that sucked, this one sucked the hardest. Yeccch! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/24 "2019-06-16T04:33:32Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > … after that stupid one with Tasha fighting for her life with the death claw). AKA “Planet of the Angry Negroes.” ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/25 "2019-06-16T05:37:18Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Isn’t Patrick a coproducer or producer on this new show? > > No one understands TNG like him. I can’t imagine him signing onto a project that isn’t good. Picard means too much to Patrick. He doesn’t want to be associated with a failure and have that be Picard’s last moment. You must have blocked _Star Trek: Nemesis_ from your mind. That one sucked targ balls. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/26 "2019-06-16T15:31:52Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > You must have blocked _Star Trek: Nemesis_ from your mind. That one sucked targ balls. Was still better than the one with RubberFace McSalieri… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/27 "2019-06-16T18:47:02Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > \*Encounter at Farpoint \*was better than about 95% of other things on TV at the time. It only looks shabby compared to what came later. Its shabbiness was apparent during the initial airing, as I personally remember. Although I would have called it suckitude. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/28 "2019-06-17T00:03:28Z")
Is Picard’s incurable brain disease from the season finale still canon? ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/29 "2019-06-17T00:20:43Z")
Didn’t you read the thread title? He tested not positively! He’s cured! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/30 "2019-06-17T05:54:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > AKA “Planet of the Angry Negroes.” … As opposed to “Shiny, Happy Aryans.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/31 "2019-06-17T13:56:01Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > AKA “Planet of the Angry Negroes.” Well, you have to admit that using this theme saved on make-up prosthetics for the humanoid alien of the week for that episode. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/32 "2019-06-17T14:13:20Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Is Picard’s incurable brain disease from the season finale still canon? > [@markn\_1](#): > > Didn’t you read the thread title? He tested not positively! He’s cured! \ ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/33 "2019-06-17T15:19:35Z")
Just going to reinforce, here, that four days after being posted there’s no confirm - or even a denial - from Paramount or whomever is in charge, now. I haven’t seen one other site pick it up. Certainly io9 would have run with it. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/34 "2019-06-17T15:25:33Z")
I was clear in my OP that it was a rumor. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/35 "2019-06-17T15:59:11Z")
I hope they bring back John de Lancie. Picard’s ultimate nemesis. Q may even be the reason Picard left Star Fleet. TNG ended with a story where Picard’s inadvertent actions almost caused a disaster. Q may have revealed something else to him just as bad It would be a great way to start the new series. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/36 "2019-06-17T16:12:29Z")
Patrick Stewart’s last contribution to Star Trek was deciding Nemesis needed a high speed car chase. Perhaps he is the one with Irumodic Syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/37 "2019-06-17T19:08:31Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > The upcoming CBS All Access series _Star Trek: Picard_, starring Patrick Stewart as Captain Jean-Luc Picard from _Star Trek: The Next Generation_, is reportedly scoring 75 to 80% negative in early test screenings. According to Bounding Into Comics, showrunner Alex Kurtzman has been fired and barred from the set. Oh that’s too bad. > [@cochrane](#): > > [Rumor: Alex Kurtzman Fired By CBS - Test Shows For Star Trek: Picard Are Horrible - Bounding Into Comics](https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/06/13/rumor-alex-kurtzman-fired-by-cbs-test-shows-for-star-trek-picard-are-horrible/) > . > 80% negative? Things don’t look too good for _Mon Capitaine_ …this info comes from **that** site? …I’ll wait for a more reputable site to say something. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/38 "2019-06-17T19:48:09Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > No, it wasn’t. It was really, really poor. There was plenty on TV at the time that was much better. I almost didn’t continue watching TNG because of that episode (and actually gave up for a couple episodes after that stupid one with Tasha fighting for her life with the death claw). I gave up on TNG before the first season was over. It really did suck donkeys. Fast-forward to the end of the series. They ran 3 fan favorites and I watched them all. I was surprised with how much better the series had become. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/39 "2019-06-17T19:55:34Z")
What’s it about anyway? I have a feeling that any Jean-Luc Picard series that doesn’t have him in command of an Enterprise is going to suffer by comparison to TNG, even if Patrick Stewart’s playing the same character. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/40 "2019-06-17T21:27:17Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > I gave up on TNG before the first season was over. It really did suck donkeys. Fast-forward to the end of the series. They ran 3 fan favorites and I watched them all. I was surprised with how much better the series had become. That’s because Riker [grew a beard](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GrowingTheBeard). A beard can’t help _ST: Picard_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=3)