# Star Trek: Picard discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 14, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529 "2019-06-14T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/381 "2020-02-29T00:56:11Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Wasn’t the Doctor granted personhood after _Voyager_ returned to the Alpha Quadrant? At least in the first time line in which it took 23 years for _Voyager_ to return, he was married and named himself Joe, after his wife’s grandfather. And he had his holographic emitter, which allowed him to move about freely. This timeline was erased by Janeway, however, but it’s reasonable to assume the Doctor’s petition for personhood was granted. > > Also, the holographic Las Vegas singer Vic Fontaine was sentient, although his status after _Deep Space Nine_ is unknown. I don’t think Vic is sentient, I just think he fakes it really well. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/382 "2020-02-29T04:32:23Z")
Fucking SF are always accidentaly creating sentient life. They leave a toaster on a few days and it becomes sentient. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/383 "2020-02-29T04:33:42Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I enjoyed it - I’m confused by atleast one plot point, but will wait to see how it plays out. > > I’m enjoying the season overall -and I’ll bet when its all said and done, a full rewatch will be satisfying as well. I think we’re up to like five mystery boxes now…especially if the Twins father turns out to be ‘the big bad’. …I have theories on the cliffhanger. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/384 "2020-02-29T14:56:49Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > I think we’re up to like five mystery boxes now Are you counting the literal mystery box, the Space Rubik’s Cube of Death? ---
**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/385 "2020-03-06T04:03:43Z")
Frakes and Sirtis are fucking gems. That is all. Sent from my SM-A505W using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/386 "2020-03-06T11:40:34Z")
Just as long as they aren’t fucking [bunnicorns](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Nepenthe), because that probably has some consent issues. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/387 "2020-03-06T11:55:29Z")
> [@tingbudong](#): > > Frakes and Sirtis are fucking gems. > > That is all. > > Sent from my SM-A505W using Tapatalk I never thought of either of them as great actors. Perfectly competent, and did lovely things with their roles over the years of inhabiting them, but that’s about it. I’ll be damned if they both didn’t make me tear up a few times during last night’s episode. I know many of the cast members have remained close, and maybe that bled through into their performances; the camaraderie and the genuine caring that Picard, Riker, and Troi have for one another was palpable. ---
**Author:** ![TPWombat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TPWombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TPWombat)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/388 "2020-03-06T12:14:28Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > I’ll be damned if they both didn’t make me tear up a few times during last night’s episode. I know many of the cast members have remained close, and maybe that bled through into their performances; the camaraderie and the genuine caring that Picard, Riker, and Troi have for one another was palpable. +1 ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/389 "2020-03-06T14:58:25Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > I never thought of either of them as great actors. Perfectly competent, and did lovely things with their roles over the years of inhabiting them, but that’s about it. > > I’ll be damned if they both didn’t make me tear up a few times during last night’s episode. I know many of the cast members have remained close, and maybe that bled through into their performances; the camaraderie and the genuine caring that Picard, Riker, and Troi have for one another was palpable. You know, typically when i say i “cry” at movies or shows. I don’t actually cry. my eyes well up and i get a lump in my throat. this episode though, i had actual tears going down my face. I felt like such a sap. glad I’m not alone. lol ---
**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/390 "2020-03-06T15:40:48Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > I never thought of either of them as great actors. Perfectly competent, and did lovely things with their roles over the years of inhabiting them, but that’s about it. > > I’ll be damned if they both didn’t make me tear up a few times during last night’s episode. I know many of the cast members have remained close, and maybe that bled through into their performances; the camaraderie and the genuine caring that Picard, Riker, and Troi have for one another was palpable. +2 I have always considered them competent, if not a notch above the average Star Trek regular, particularly Frakes. But damn, they NAILED their scenes, and yeah, brought a tear to my eye as well. I like that they were not ham fisted into the story just for nostalgia, but that their characters actually moved along the plot with Picard and Soji. Frakes was on an interview last year where he said he was super nervous to be acting again since he’s been mostly behind the camera for the past 18+ years. Sent from my SM-A505W using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/391 "2020-03-06T17:28:48Z")
Emotions while watching the latest one so far: [spoiler]A bunnicorn! 😍 Troi and Riker! 🤩🤩 …they killed the bunnicorn. 😭[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/392 "2020-03-06T17:41:21Z")
Yeah, I’m no vegetarian, but I kinda have moral issues about the idea of killing animals for food when perfectly servicable replicated meat is available. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/393 "2020-03-09T10:17:25Z")
Bunnicorns are probably vermin. If you don’t keep the population down you’ll be overrun with the venomous little bastards. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/394 "2020-03-09T11:07:28Z")
What I find most impressive is that Memory Alpha has a page on [bunnicorn sausage](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Bunnicorn_sausage), created on March 5th! It’s best to waste no time on important developments like these… ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/395 "2020-03-09T11:19:04Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Bunnicorns are probably vermin. If you don’t keep the population down you’ll be overrun with the venomous little bastards. They have all those Kzinti around to take care of it, though… ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/396 "2020-03-09T19:13:19Z")
Wife asked me after watching the episode, and I wracked my brain, but couldn’t recall… Does Commodore Oh’s being able to mind-meld prove her to be Vulcan, not Romulan? I know they are related species, but have the Romulans ever shown any sort of psychic ability like the Vulcans have? (I mean, it’s still not out of the realm of possibility that she faked it with some hidden technological device, but if we take it as given that it’s a “real” mind meld… ) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/397 "2020-03-09T19:27:47Z")
They’ve never been shown as telepathic in canon material, but also never been explicitly incapable of it, and various non-canon material (novels and comics) have presented them as developing ways to gain telepathic abilities (ranging from interbreeding with Vulcans, to just actually _trying_ to learn to use them)…so there’s precedent for introducing the idea. (And, assuming Remans are actually a Romulan offshoot, both the most closely related species are telepathic, so, by phylogenetic bracketing, ‘telepathic Romulans’ should be the default assumption.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/398 "2020-03-12T16:16:54Z")
Another solid episode. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/399 "2020-03-13T19:28:23Z")
I gotta say though, french fries and peppermint ice cream? That’s not just a bug, that’s ‘scrap the whole project and start over’ territory. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/400 "2020-03-13T19:41:03Z")
I’m really hoping they’re not using Picard’s speech about optimism and hope overcoming the past to set him up to fail; I want some optimistic science fiction for a change. Also, is anybody else kinda getting a Mass Effect vibe from this? Some ancient synthetic lifeform reaping the galaxy once they deem it ripe, after having produced synthetic life…? (And wasn’t the Reliant destroyed in Star Trek II? Or did Picard serve on the Reliant A?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=21)