# Star Trek: Picard discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 14, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529 "2019-06-14T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/81 "2019-07-22T10:42:26Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I don’t understand how so many people recognise Third of Five, aka Hugh, as though we’re all familiar with who that is, when I have no memory at all of him. I don’t even know which one he is in the trailer. [This guy](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hugh). He was found disconnected from the Collective in _I, Borg_ and then gets mixed up with Lore’s shenanigans in the two-parter _Descent_. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/82 "2019-07-22T11:03:54Z")
But who is he in the trailer? No Borgs aside from Seven that I could see. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/83 "2019-07-22T11:35:18Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > But who is he in the trailer? No Borgs aside from Seven that I could see. There’s a brief shot of a borgified corpse being prodded at 1:46 in the trailer. I don’t know if that’s Hugh, but it’s been confirmed that Jonathan Del Arco will be playing Hugh on the show. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/84 "2019-07-22T14:58:07Z")
Innnnteresting. This could actually be worth a look (although I’d rather see Picard back in command of a Starfleet ship, or as an admiral at Starfleet Command, wrestling with decisions as he sends younger officers out to do the sweaty stuff). ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/85 "2019-07-22T15:12:58Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > She’s some sort of enhancile/alien/whatever. She clearly exceeds human norms. Naomi Wildman? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/86 "2019-07-23T13:46:43Z")
Well, let me start by saying I have no dog in this fight. I do not watch TV and am unwilling to pay for more TV channels. Still, I saw the trailer, and I am not impressed. It seems dark. Star Trek is not supposed to be dark. I do not like what I have seen. Further, the idea of “Picard in Retirement” is a neat idea. We do not need another starship. We certainly do not need Star Fleet Academy. What I would like to see is earth in the Star Trek’s post-scarcity economy. What is France like? What do retired people do in the XXV Century? Or not. I have no taste. I am often wrong. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/87 "2019-07-23T14:24:13Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > What do retired people do in the XXV Century? Since human life expectancy is around 150 years, I suspect they spend a lot of time mulling over Zephram Cochrane’s wise comment “Immortality consists largely of boredom.” ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/88 "2019-07-23T15:03:55Z")
1. Writing his memoirs, 2. Commenting on starship design 3. On the board of the local high school 4. Learning to bake, a recurring theme throughout the series. 5. Keeping the family vineyards going. 6. Dealing with various nieces and nephews Picard in retirement would have a lot of options and many chances for guest stars. But of course my emails go unreturned. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/89 "2019-07-23T17:23:19Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > 1. Writing his memoirs, > 2. Commenting on starship design > 3. On the board of the local high school > 4. Learning to bake, a recurring theme throughout the series. > 5. Keeping the family vineyards going. > 6. Dealing with various nieces and nephews > > Picard in retirement would have a lot of options and many chances for guest stars. Ah, yes. Improving and enriching himself! Me, I’d rather relocate to the South Pacific and be a beach bum. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/90 "2019-07-23T17:42:29Z")
There’s another trailer that strongly suggests that it’s not about Picard in retirement. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/KbXy0f0aCN0/maxresdefault.jpg "Sir Patrick Stewart Returns In Star Trek: Picard | SDCC Trailer| Paramount+") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbXy0f0aCN0) ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/91 "2019-07-23T19:15:07Z")
I’m strongly anti-Trek with these producers. STD is a cringey mess. (Oddly enough with strong plots but horrible execution) The Kelvin movies are entertaining but just deconstructing and selling for parts. All that said…I think this looks good. My main quibble is the weak tropish “possible savior/ special anointed one” But the pros would seem to outweigh this. It feels good to be back in a post TNG world with familiar faces and tech that makes sense. I’m very optimistic…and seriously part ways with the usual crybaby YouTube personalities who hate all things Trek/Wars\* - I agree with them on a lot but man they have blind spots ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/92 "2019-07-23T21:40:31Z")
There is a mystery that brings Picard **out of retirement** , involving Seven of Nine and Data. ETA: Riker and Troi will also appear at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/93 "2019-07-23T21:52:44Z")
Dammit! that looks like something I might want to watch. But not on CBS all access pay channel. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/94 "2019-07-23T23:03:30Z")
> [@Bumbazine](#): > > Dammit! that looks like something I might want to watch. > > But not on CBS all access pay channel. :mad: Same here. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/95 "2019-07-23T23:18:06Z")
Picard as a retiree walking along his vines sounds like a _really_ boring show. So does any other idea the OP floated. While I think these producers are hacks, this show intrigues me a bit. Maybe not enough to pay for it, but we shall see. ---
**Author:** ![yo\_han\_go](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yo_han_go/32/130_2.png) [@yo\_han\_go](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yo_han_go)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/96 "2019-07-23T23:38:03Z")
Being a sleeper Borg spy. That I’d watch. Edit. Gone see trailer. Looks close enough. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/97 "2019-07-24T00:18:58Z")
TNG is the only Star Trek iteration that I actively dislike as opposed to merely didn’t get into. This still manages to look potentially interesting. An older warrior dealing with his traumas in retirement called back in a way that includes that character growth offers some real potential. If they bring back much of the cast of TNG for anything but brief cameos I’m going to feel very, very stabby though. Worf and O’Brien get exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/98 "2019-07-24T01:05:31Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > 1. Dealing with various nieces and nephews Weren’t you paying attention to the movies? Picard is **it** for the family. His brother and nephew died in a fire, and there are no other siblings. So unless Jean-Luc is in a few sperm banks. the line dies with him. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/99 "2019-07-24T01:09:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Weren’t you paying attention to the movies? Picard is **it** for the family. His brother and nephew died in a fire, and there are no other siblings. So unless Jean-Luc is in a few sperm banks. the line dies with him. No. I have not seen a Star Trek movie, or TV show in donkey’s ears. Thanks for asking. A series that can bring people back from the dead and recreate entire planets that were destroyed could certainly introduce long-lost relatives. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/100 "2019-07-24T01:17:11Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Weren’t you paying attention to the movies? Picard is **it** for the family. His brother and nephew died in a fire, and there are no other siblings. So unless Jean-Luc is in a few sperm banks. the line dies with him. Surely all surviving captains of the Enterprise since Archer have been put out to stud. Old fashion, yes, but that’s the human factor they are always talking about. I expect the show is stuff that happens between his dates with young women. No doubt keeping Data around to organize his schedule. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=6)