# Star Trek: Picard discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 14, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529 "2019-06-14T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/141 "2019-07-26T03:52:22Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > The whole “Savior/destroyer of the the galaxy!” thing isn’t very Trek. Its sorta BSG and is right up STDs alley. I think THEY have already encountered a couple of universe-level threats never mind galaxy level. > Even the Q had to come up with some hamfisted method to destroy humanity. Piggy backing my own comment to point out weird it is that the first eps of TNG, DS9 and VOY all featured God-Like/super powerful aliens. TNG is especially weird. Our very first ep in nearly 20 years and BAM HUMANITY IS ON TRIAL!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/142 "2019-07-26T12:06:10Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > The Orville is largely episodic so you don’t need to watch season 1. Be advised that the first couple episodes of season 2 are rather dreadful. The first couple episodes of season 1 are also dreadful. Once a season hits its stride, though, there are some absolute gems. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/143 "2019-07-26T13:25:24Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > “This facility has gone 5843 days without an assimilation.” > > That bodes well. That’s almost sixteen earth years. Why are they still bothering to count by this point? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/144 "2019-07-26T14:37:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The first couple episodes of season 1 are also dreadful. Once a season hits its stride, though, there are some absolute gems. Especially their take on Best of Both Worlds. I expected it to be stupid, and it was one of the best of either season. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/145 "2019-07-26T14:49:11Z")
Possibility; 1. That Borg cube is the remnants of the one defeated by Picard and they’re de-borging the remaining Borg slowly and tearing it apart for technology and resources. 2. It’s a completely different cube, same results. Theory that the woman in question is the former Borg queen/Unimatrix adjunct (per 7 of 9) of the cube, but I guess we’d have to see if she’s all biological or part machine, ala the other Borg Queen. I could see that there might still be some danger of re-assimilation if they’re taking Borg off of it slowly and they get loose in the facility. ---
**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/146 "2019-07-26T23:26:35Z")
Interest piqued. I actually got goosebumps from that trailer. And I thought my Trekker tendencies died when they made STD. We won’t pay for CBS All Access, but we will find a way to watch at least the first few episodes. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/147 "2019-07-27T10:18:37Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I’ve only seen bits and pieces of Voyager. Did Seven of Nine seem more “human” in the trailer than normal? Yes, very much so, and I’m pretty sure intentionally. It was almost like Generations showing a clip of Data with his emotion chip. The Seven fans I saw definitely noticed. Seven wasn’t exactly emotionless, but she was very restrained, so much so that she never tripped a Borg safety device that would shut down drones that got too emotional. They didn’t discover she still had this until near the end of Season 7. And even after it was removed, it wasn’t like she suddenly changed in personality–she had to willingly explore being more emotional. So the change was set up in near the end of Voyager, and she was letting loose a bit more there, but her appearance here seems to be a step beyond, showing how much she’s grown and changed. Though her sarcastic wit is something she had for a while: it just was much more dry and less animated. It still sounds like Seven–just more free. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/148 "2019-07-27T15:38:58Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes, very much so, and I’m pretty sure intentionally. It was almost like Generations showing a clip of Data with his emotion chip. The Seven fans I saw definitely noticed. > > Seven wasn’t exactly emotionless, but she was very restrained, so much so that she never tripped a Borg safety device that would shut down drones that got too emotional. They didn’t discover she still had this until near the end of Season 7. And even after it was removed, it wasn’t like she suddenly changed in personality–she had to willingly explore being more emotional. > > So the change was set up in near the end of Voyager, and she was letting loose a bit more there, but her appearance here seems to be a step beyond, showing how much she’s grown and changed. > > Though her sarcastic wit is something she had for a while: it just was much more dry and less animated. It still sounds like Seven–just more free. She wore her hair down in the trailer too. I remember Seven always having her hair pinned up. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/149 "2019-07-28T13:24:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > In at least some of the official novels set after _Star Trek: Nemesis_, Worf becomes Picard’s First Officer aboard the _Enterprise_-E. Also, Worf takes custody of Data’s cat, Spot, and comes to appreciate Spot as a great hunter. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/150 "2019-07-28T14:13:03Z")
If this will be another Borg conflict. The Federation needs to bring in the expert, Janeway. The Voyager finale indicated the crew made it home after decades of travel. Janeway’s unique experiences with the Borg allowed the Federation to develop new shields, weapons, and tactics. Giving the Federation a decent chance against the Borg. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/151 "2019-07-28T14:34:15Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The Voyager finale indicated the crew made it home after decades of travel. Wasn’t that an alternate timeline, in which they never found a quick way home? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/152 "2019-07-28T14:37:45Z")
Yes, there were two timelines. One was the slow route and they lost a lot of the original crew. 7 of 9 died in that timeline. Janeway used a Borg conduit to get them home 25 years quicker in the Finale. Creating a 2nd timeline where more of the crew got home. Either way, Voyager had more Borg contact than other Federation ships because they were in the Borg’s home territory. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/153 "2019-07-28T14:49:08Z")
Btw, that Borg conduit lead directly into Federation space. I bet that was a OMG moment for the Federation. 😉 The Borg could drop by unannounced anytime they want. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/154 "2019-07-30T17:11:29Z")
It looks like the producers are confident there will be a season two and are already reaching out to other Trek actors. Robert Picardo, everybody’s favorite EMH, reports that the producers have spoken to his agent about a possible appearance. Picardo played two characters on _Star Trek: Voyager_, the holographic physician who took over when Voyager’s senior surgeon was killed, and the EMH’s creator, Dr. Lewis Zimmerman. Quoth Picardo: > [@](#): > > I am pleased that they (CBS) have expressed interest in me. They have reached out to my agent about next season. So I’m looking forward to seeing what it is. As you know I play two characters, primarily the Doctor but also Lewis Zimmerman. > **[Robert Picardo In Early Discussions To Appear In ‘Star Trek: Picard’ Season Two](https://trekmovie.com/2019/07/29/robert-picardo-in-early-discussions-to-appear-in-star-trek-picard-season-two/)** > > The EMH may be reactivated for the next season. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/155 "2019-07-30T18:40:03Z")
_Star Trek: Picardo_. He also played Zimmerman on an episode of DS9. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/156 "2019-07-30T19:44:13Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > _Star Trek: Picardo_. > > He also played Zimmerman on an episode of DS9. He also played the Enterprise - E’s EMH (same model as Voyager’s, the EMH Mk I) in _Star Trek: First Contact_. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/157 "2019-07-30T19:53:34Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > _Star Trek: Picardo_. > > He also played Zimmerman on an episode of DS9. I breifly thought we were talking about STD. The EMH Doc could easily show up in season 3 of STD. Just would hope they didnt make it too dark of an appearance. I DO think the time has passed to do a ‘holograms are the new slave class’ episode. Timeline-wise, that would have been resolved a bit ago. And having a decent handle on Fed ethics, they probably made it illegal to intentionally create sentient holograms. How they would handle Doc wanting to pro-create…I dunno… ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/158 "2019-07-30T20:30:46Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > I DO think the time has passed to do a ‘holograms are the new slave class’ episode. Timeline-wise, that would have been resolved a bit ago. And having a decent handle on Fed ethics, they probably made it illegal to intentionally create sentient holograms. [“Author, Author”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Author,_Author_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)) - VOY season 7, episode 20 Obsolete EMHs are forced to work as miners on an asteroid. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/159 "2019-07-30T20:55:24Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > _Star Trek: Picardo_. > > He also played Zimmerman on an episode of DS9. He also played Alara’s father on The Orville. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529/160 "2019-07-31T02:14:25Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > How they would handle Doc wanting to pro-create…I dunno… He was shown as being happily married to a human female in Pt1 of the \*\*\*Voyager \*\*\*finale. I’ve always wondered if his programming included viable holographic sperm. (No, I am not being facetious. Just how far does “fully functional” extend in the 24th century?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-discussion-thread/835529.md?page=9)