# Star Trek Picard Review **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [August 7, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458 "2020-08-07T00:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/21 "2020-08-08T01:23:38Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Yes, they didn’t need it in TNG so why do they need it in ST:Picard? > > > Not to mention I kind of like a less positive future spin for humanity. > > Great, so like every other Sci Fi show out there. That’s not what ST is about, even DS9 dealt with heavy topics without losing its sense of optimism. Who the fuck cares what they “needed” in TNG. TNG is over. And not every ST series has to be the same. It can and should explore different themes. Or they can crash and burn like Enterprise due to running out of ideas. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/22 "2020-08-08T01:37:34Z")
I think that’s the problem with both _Picard_ and _Discovery._ The ideas aren’t particularly imaginative (except when they’re stupid), and they can’t get away from fan service. The finale of _Picard_ was particularly egregious. They hit the reset button in a particularly silly fashion (“You will not live any longer than you normally would”) when there were two far more imaginative ways to deal with it (three, if they really had the guts). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/23 "2020-08-08T01:38:01Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > It is simply one not-so-clever derisive comment after another, and none of them provide any real details as to why the show is so allegedly bad. The review goes into a rather great deal of detail as to the weird plot holes, wholly abandoned plot threads, and illogical nonsense “Picard” had in abundance. It makes other substantial points too. “Picard” was terrible; this review says a dozen or more reasons why and honestly it doesn’t even get into all the problems that dungheap of a show had. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/24 "2020-08-08T01:51:29Z")
It was no worse than a Next Generation episode, better than some. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/25 "2020-08-08T08:59:59Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > even DS9 dealt with heavy topics without losing its sense of optimism “Optimism” = “be a war criminal”? Got it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/26 "2020-08-08T09:03:12Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It was no worse than a Next Generation episode, better than some. Better than _most_. Especially the early seasons. ---
**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/27 "2020-08-08T09:15:18Z")
I kind of enjoyed the Plinkett reviews when they were new, and I generally like what “Plinkett” has to say. I just don’t have the time or paitence to watch a 90 minute review any more though. Has anybody summarised “Plinkett’s” main points somewhere I can get a Cliff’s notes version? ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/28 "2020-08-08T17:22:43Z")
> Who the fuck cares what they “needed” in TNG. TNG is over. No need for Picard then. > And not every ST series has to be the same. It can and should explore different themes. Or they can crash and burn like Enterprise due to running out of ideas. Enterprise was actually good compared to this dreck. You can explore different themes without jettisoning the entire foundation of what made ST good. Alex Kurtzman is a hack writer. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/29 "2020-08-08T17:24:26Z")
How about optimism of Odo being accepted by his peers despite those same peers being at war with his people. But no we’ll go with the optimistic future of Picard where we see the Borg plucking somebodys eye out. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/30 "2020-08-08T17:28:36Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > No need for Picard then. Aside from people watching it and enjoying it. It’s not like they extended a Season 2 because no one watched. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/31 "2020-08-08T17:29:08Z")
Yeah, because it’s rubbish ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/32 "2020-08-08T17:30:50Z")
I think you mistook my sarcasm (maybe I should edit ok make it clearer). A season 2 is coming. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/33 "2020-08-08T17:32:24Z")
My condolences ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/34 "2020-08-08T19:20:48Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > How about optimism of Odo being accepted by his peers despite those same peers being at war with his people. Does nothing to cancel out the war crimes Sisko commits. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/35 "2020-08-08T19:32:53Z")
> Does nothing to cancel out the war crimes Sisko commits. Ends justify the means ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/36 "2020-08-08T19:34:00Z")
[J.L Picard is Not TNG Picard in Star Trek Picard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr5Qxgzdgo0) [Smoking and Drinking in Star Trek Picard Vs TNG / DS9 / Voyager / Gene Roddenberry’s Vision](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyrtGfQz_Ds) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/37 "2020-08-08T19:45:16Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > > This tryhard asshole again? Knowing he dislikes something actually makes me like it more (and I generally already like the things he lamely tries to tear down, already). > > So you like the Last Jedi? I though it was better than the prequels and I have to agree somewhat with **MrDibble** , Mr. Plinkett’s looks more to me like a one hit wonder that did hit it out of the ballpark with his legendary Phantom Menace tear-down. It has struggled to hit a single after that. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/38 "2020-08-08T19:55:12Z")
I’m sorry just because its better than the prequels doesn’t mean it’s considered good. The Last Jedi had terrible writing and was extremely lazy, laziness which was represented in the inverting of the snow from the Empire Strikes Back to Salt. As for the Mr Plinkett stuff, dismissing it as a “one” Hit wonder is irrelevant, most of their criticisms of current ST and Star Wars are valid. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/39 "2020-08-08T20:01:46Z")
Thing is that I was aware of this: > **[Star Trek: Picard](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star_trek_picard)** > > Synopsis:Retired admiral Jean-Luc Picard -- still deeply affected by the loss of Lieutenant Commander Data and the destruction of Romulus -- steps into the next chapter of his life. Most critics did like the series (87%), and average audience score was almost 60%. Not great, but good. With the _Last Jedi_ even more critics did agree that it was good (90%), but less so the average audience. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458/40 "2020-08-08T20:06:39Z")
> Most critics did like the series (87%), and average audience score was almost 60%. Not great, but good. Most critics aren’t long time Trek fans, _which the show is supposedly aimed at._ > With the _Last Jedi_ even more critics did agree that it was good (90%), but less so the average audience. Because the average audience knew garbage when they saw it. Ghostbusters in 2016 got 74% from critics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-review/917458.md?page=3)