# Star Trek Picard Season 3 discussion (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [February 16, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922 "2023-02-16T23:43:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/221 "2023-04-21T15:54:39Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > There is a treaty with the Romulans that the Federation will not use them Ah, OK. Except when used by declared renegades, so we have plausible deniability… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/222 "2023-04-21T16:04:35Z")
> **[Treaty of Algeron](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Treaty_of_Algeron)** > > The Treaty of Algeron was a peace treaty signed between the United Federation of Planets and the Romulan Star Empire in 2311, following the events of the Tomed Incident. The Treaty of Algeron was signed approximately 160 years after the conclusion of... ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/223 "2023-04-21T16:44:02Z")
I swear…SWEAR I had heard Denise Crosby was in the show. I kept waiting for Sela to show up to the rescue, or to help and (Why she would help I dunno)…and cheekily saying “You are in violation of the Treaty of Algeron and I am here for your cloaking device” As for shields…DS9 held up for quite a while against a fleet and its much smaller then that Earth one and it was some 30 years ago ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/224 "2023-04-21T16:50:19Z")
Shouldn’t poor Miles O’Brien got at least a cameo? ---
**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/225 "2023-04-21T16:53:39Z")
Surely by now in the ongoing technological battle of measure vs countermeasure, federation scientists would have come up with a cloak detector? In fact, didn’t Riker activate one at his Rustic Retreat in series one? Oh well, this is Star Trek, not hard science fiction… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/226 "2023-04-21T16:54:22Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Shouldn’t poor Miles O’Brien got at least a cameo? Or _really_ tick people off and have Reginald Barkley swoop in and save everybody at the last minute. ---
**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/227 "2023-04-21T16:57:58Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Or _really_ tick people off and have Reginald Barkley swoop in and save everybody at the last minute. With, of course, a cure which is ultimately worse than the disease… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/228 "2023-04-21T16:58:24Z")
Okay, so the day is then saved by Pulaski. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/229 "2023-04-21T17:00:42Z")
[![](https://frinkiac.com/meme/S09E14/1315563.jpg?b64lines=IEFORCwgRVZFTlRVQUxMWSwgVEhFWQogV0VSRSBSRVNDVUVEIEJZLCBPSC4uLgogTEVUJ1MgU0FZIE1PRS4=) ](https://frinkiac.com/meme/S09E14/1315563.jpg?b64lines=IEFORCwgRVZFTlRVQUxMWSwgVEhFWQogV0VSRSBSRVNDVUVEIEJZLCBPSC4uLgogTEVUJ1MgU0FZIE1PRS4=) ---
**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/230 "2023-04-21T17:00:55Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Okay, so the day is then saved by Pulaski. No, her antidote didn’t work. She died as a result of drinking the tea in Worf’s tea ceremony. Oh well, enough. This is getting silly. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![de\_Worde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@de\_Worde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/de_Worde)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/231 "2023-04-21T20:01:42Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Nitpick wise, everyone assumes President Chekov is the SON of Pavel Chekov I don’t see why it couldn’t have been Pavel himself. He’d be 156, which seems to me a reasonable 25th Century life expectancy. But “Anton” was a nice tribute. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/232 "2023-04-21T21:57:48Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > I swear…SWEAR I had heard Denise Crosby was in the show. We saw her trapped inside her little holographic cube thing when Data weaponized his memories to sneak attack Lore with love and a kitty. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/233 "2023-04-21T22:32:13Z")
Need a little help, and apparently closed captioning isn’t available. Scene: Data in a session with Troi. It ends (finally!), and he and Troi walk to the door. It opens, Riker is there, asks Data how he’s feeling/doing. Data says, “I’m okay” and leaves. Riker grins at Troi and says two words. Again, no closed caption help, and I’ve tried to catch exactly what he said several times. At most, I think I get that the second word is ‘patches’. Anyone hear that clearly and can help an old man out? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/234 "2023-04-21T23:05:11Z")
“He still batshit?” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/235 "2023-04-22T00:14:58Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > Anyone hear that clearly and can help an old man out? Give an old man a fish, he eats for the day. [Teach an old man to fish](https://subscene.com/subtitles/star-trek-picard-third-season/english/3072581)… (If soft subtitles exist for something, you can probably find them there. And yes, the “batshit” line is correct.) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/236 "2023-04-22T12:43:21Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > There is a treaty with the Romulans that the Federation will not use them. And what did the Romulans agree to do or not to do in return? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/237 "2023-04-22T15:27:36Z")
Destroy the Federation. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/238 "2023-04-22T15:38:46Z")
So it wasn’t so much a treaty as it was a capitulation. And the federation felt a moral obligation to uphold it for centuries, receiving nothing in return. As always, it’s a wonder they survived. ---
**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/239 "2023-04-22T15:57:27Z")
Are the Romulans really that powerful? Riker & his fleet saw them off in season 2… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/240 "2023-04-22T16:02:29Z")
Have you watched _Strange New Worlds_? I don’t want to spoiler it if you haven’t, but an alternate timeline in the ST:TOS era showed the Romulans would have erased the Federation if they decided to. Also, > **[r/startrek - To those who say that the Warbird's true size was never apparent......](https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/13zpr3/to_those_who_say_that_the_warbirds_true_size_was/)** > > 397 votes and 215 comments so far on Reddit [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922.md?page=13)