# Star Trek Picard Season 3 discussion (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [February 16, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922 "2023-02-16T23:43:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/121 "2023-03-18T13:29:05Z")
Yeah…maybe as a five year old or so, he found a lost little Foundling (again, an Odo-like baby) and they merged. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/122 "2023-03-18T14:05:43Z")
Oh, you mean Alien Orphan (also known as “Doug”.) [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v-zK1TKajlo/hqdefault.jpg "The Specials (2000) Dance Sequence") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zK1TKajlo) ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/123 "2023-03-18T14:12:00Z")
Quark: “So that was Bajor before the occupation?” Odo: “…yes.” Quark: “I see why they fell.” ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/124 "2023-03-18T17:45:14Z")
> > > Chris 🟡🟡🟡🟡 @ShelfNerds ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/125 "2023-03-18T18:15:47Z")
Shaw is great. I think he’s the first major Star Trek character to be totally over Star Trek. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/126 "2023-03-18T19:01:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Shaw is great. Yeah, I’d watch his spin-off. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/127 "2023-03-18T20:44:38Z")
I like how Shaw’s ‘Chicken and the Egg’ comment stomps any discussiion of the ‘temporal paradox that nearly wiped out humanity’ ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/128 "2023-03-19T09:51:47Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > So is jack a Foundling…or whatever Odo was? How could Beverly not know? Or if she does know, why tell Picard Jack is his son? I thought the fight sequence seemed very reminiscent of when Dahj’s android powers were activated upon being threatened by the Zhat Vhash strike team, so I took it as an indication that there might be something synthetic about him, but maybe with a different flavor—maybe some connection to the ‘higher synthetics’ or being partially synthetic or what have you. Anyway, as for this most recent episode, I thought it was the strongest yet—the changelings’ plan to get rid of Ro didn’t make terribly much sense (so they set her up the bomb, but give it enough of a fuse to have her warn Picard and cripple the Intrepid?), and I don’t particularly care for how everything ultimately seems to come down to Picard’s unresolved attachment issues (then again, it is called ‘Star Trek: Picard’), but other than that, I’m invested, and I did like the merging of the two main plotlines. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/129 "2023-03-19T12:41:26Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > I don’t particularly care for how everything ultimately seems to come down to Picard’s unresolved attachment issues At least he doesn’t spend all his time crying and whispering. And only a _little_ gushing about how much he loves his fellow crewmembers. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/130 "2023-03-19T21:53:15Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > As a person who hates spoilers myself, I should have known better so I apologize but every blurb I saw that said the Next Gen crew was coming back also mentioned what I posted and I was actively trying to avoid learning too much so I thought it was common knowledge. But I screwed up. Maybe a mod can edit my post? You didn’t screw up. It’s been well known for a while. Lore too. Not much time left to get them into the game. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/131 "2023-03-19T22:25:07Z")
“Well known” is relative. Some of us have not been reading what you read and have previously known neither of those things. I had not, for example. I doubt I am the only one. It seems pretty basic to spoiler box something that has not yet been broadcast even if you think everyone MUST have read what you have. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/132 "2023-03-19T23:57:32Z")
I would think that open spoilers refers to broadcast shows and broadcast material However I also will only refer to broadcast shows and not other material Though at this point the only spoilers that could come up if showrunners tweeted about something not yet revealed as we’ve seen a couple of times ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/133 "2023-03-20T00:17:17Z")
The official trailer for Picard Season 3 has been out for over a month now and it features both Moriority and Lore. I don’t really think that deserves spoiler tags, seeing as how the actual episodes have not aired, and official trailers are something anyone could have been reasonably expected to have seen and commented on. Also, it says “Open Spoilers” right in the thread title. Proceed at your own risk. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/KMyQkazS1hA/maxresdefault.jpg "Star Trek: Picard | Season 3 Official Trailer - Paramount+") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMyQkazS1hA) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/134 "2023-03-20T01:16:26Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > The official trailer for Picard Season 3 has been out for over a month now I tend to avoid trailers and “next week on” segments. I, too was spoiled on the recent point. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/135 "2023-03-20T01:33:39Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I tend to avoid trailers and “next week on” segments. I, too was spoiled on the recent point. Perhaps it would also be wise to steer clear of “open spoilers” threads. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/136 "2023-03-20T01:34:51Z")
We veer into ATMB territory but “open spoilers” to me is for what has been shown on the show. Not what you know is to come from outside of the show itself. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/137 "2023-03-20T01:46:32Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > We veer into ATMB territory but “open spoilers” to me is for what has been shown on the show. Not what you know is to come from outside of the show itself Are widely available trailers from Paramount+ considered “outside of the show itself”? I think we’re arguing in circles here. In any event, it’s about time for those mystery characters to show up, because there’s not a whole lot of season left in the season. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/138 "2023-03-20T02:05:08Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Are widely available trailers from Paramount+ considered “outside of the show itself”? Yes? By definition? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/139 "2023-03-20T02:25:39Z")
And yet I doubt Paramount itself would consider trailers to be spoilers or they wouldn’t release them—they’d be stealing their own thunder as it were. Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I’ve spoilered any names since it has been brought to my attention. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/140 "2023-03-20T02:56:59Z")
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