# Star Trek Picard Season 3 discussion (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [February 16, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922 "2023-02-16T23:43:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/161 "2023-03-31T04:03:36Z")
I am finding I am caring less and less about this series the more it progresses. I like the TNG cast mostly for nostalgia’s sake, but they’re really not being used all that effectively. A waste of talent. Missing the camaraderie of the old days. Could learn a lot from The Orville. Maybe it’s the stories that suck, but this just isn’t doing it for me. Whether it’s Kurtzman or Matala, this story is beyond redemption. Sorry, just being honest. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/162 "2023-03-31T13:03:10Z")
More nitpicks besides having Stormtrooper level aim: 1. WhyTF is Data/Lore/Lal/Soong/B4 left with access? Come on guys. 2. The changelings that took the bridge…where TF did these assholes come from?? Nitpicks. There was a lot to like about the ep “Is that what your history says? That Starfleet GAVE the cure to our people?” Funny enough both sides are wrong. Odo AND Bashir are responsible ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/163 "2023-04-01T09:06:48Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > 1. The changelings that took the bridge…where TF did these assholes come from?? I think they were all faking being dead and once the forcefields were down just regrouped because no one was paying attention to them anymore. So, note to Starfleet officers — always make sure to waporize them, don’t just assume they are dead when they drop to the floor like a regular meatbag. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/164 "2023-04-01T17:12:59Z")
Was Picard’s idea to start executing prisoners, at least ones that won’t talk? While some of the others may be perfectly happy with war crimes, I thought that was supposed not to be his style— not to mention it seems like a poor way of getting vital information. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/165 "2023-04-01T18:02:31Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > > [@Pavelb1](#): > > > > 1. The changelings that took the bridge…where TF did these assholes come from?? > > I think they were all faking being dead and once the forcefields were down just regrouped because no one was paying attention to them anymore. So, note to Starfleet officers — always make sure to waporize them, don’t just assume they are dead when they drop to the floor like a regular meatbag. Yeah, we saw that with Captain Shaw when he shot the enemy, who promptly got up after he walked past and beat him up. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/166 "2023-04-07T17:36:57Z")
Okay, somewhere Rich Burlew watched Episode 8 and went “[What the shit?](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1130.html)” At best you could call that an homage, but that was _way_ too similar to be a coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/167 "2023-04-08T05:32:32Z")
Armus or a Pah-Wraith is the big bad I guess. I’d lead towards the latter. Something something Picard/ Jack brain syndrome something something open a portal to the Pah-Wraith hell dimension something destroy fleet related Pah-Wraiths ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/168 "2023-04-08T06:49:23Z")
This is the best Star Trek has ever been as far as I’m concerned. It’s nice to hear the TNG cast behave something like real people instead of the boring paragons of virtue Roddenberry imagined. This is way better than watching the cast spend three acts trying to figure out which button to push to solve the problem of the week. It’s not perfect, I think Raffi must be Starfleet’s worst spy and the lighting needs work, but it’s solid. And I like the look a lot. Things look a lot more like Kirk’s Starfleet with advancements than the TNG era’s set and ship design did. And Captain Shaw is a joy. He knows it’s bad news when Admirals and Commodores show up on your ship. He must’ve read Kirk’s logs. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/169 "2023-04-10T14:08:09Z")
I just caught up on the last two weeks and I am really enjoying this. If I had a gripe, I HATE how modern Trek has seem to have decided that No the Federation isn’t as goodie goodie as you thought, they really are pieces of shit too. The optimism about humanity is what I love about Trek and it’s at times when real society seems like it has lost its way is when you nee that stuff the most. This modern take that seems like it can’t even conceive of it is sad. I don’t know what to make of Vadic. She is so scared and contrite when she talks to the Big Giant Head that I was sure how things were going to go down was when she was captured, Picard would find out the Head has something over on her and he would help her but that seems unlikely at this point. I liked the scenes between Troi and Riker. It also explains why they seemed so together when we met them in Season 1 and I was grinning like an idiot when we had the whole crew sitting around the table. Let’s see what’s next. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/170 "2023-04-13T07:12:29Z")
Ever see a show where the heroes are so dumb and the villains plan so advanced you’re like “Screw it just let the bad guys win.” They should have just ended it there and announced the creation of “Star Trek: The Fugitives” Welp. McCoy was right all along about those stupid transporters. If i recall, the bit about taking the Enterprise-D’s saucer section because of the Prime Directive is lifted straight from the first Shatner Trek novel. Oh cool…it’s Shel…oh nvm. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/171 "2023-04-13T12:23:01Z")
This season is pure nostalgia. I’m enjoying it, but I’m a bit disappointed that the big bad is the Borg yet again. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/172 "2023-04-13T12:32:54Z")
My exact feeling but… .I felt their plan was so well done, I was willing to give them some slack. I mean: Our big dumb heroes…failed. One complaint. “I sense a darkness. An ancient evil moving around him, in him.” Enhhhhhh…I dunno if that really describes the Queen or the Borg. Its obvious now they wanted a Pah-Wraith misdirect. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/173 "2023-04-13T15:09:42Z")
So _why_ was Jack so important? ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/174 "2023-04-13T15:19:30Z")
He’s a transmitter and can take control of anyone that has the updated dna from the transporters. (As long as they were under 25 when they went through the transporter.) The Borg plan of inserting something biological into Picard that would then be passed on to his children would surely have made more sense with Kirk? They would have had hundreds of ‘Jacks’ to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/175 "2023-04-13T15:31:32Z")
So if either Picard never had a child, or if Jack somehow died, or was actually secured, say put into an induced coma since him taking over others was a known ability, the plan would have completely not worked? It depended on having a child sired of Picard and that child living to adulthood and the Queen having him? And do we just pretend last season never happened? ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/176 "2023-04-13T15:42:42Z")
That seemed to be the precarious plan. But maybe the Borg had been using the shape shifters for a very long time and had managed to nudge things in the right direction. Why are the shape shifters aligned with the Borg anyway? Aren’t the Borg even more solid than purely biological creatures? By last season do you mean the friendly Borg? There’s still an episode to go! ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/177 "2023-04-13T15:57:28Z")
My fanwank is that Jurati Queen has her own ‘colony’…not that she BECAME the Borg Queen and changed the timeline. Or well just find out she was assimilated a long time ago and was part of Alice Kriges plan to have ‘borg-like’ software installed in the fleet. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/178 "2023-04-13T16:05:58Z")
It’s so needlessly precarious. Borg could have released any number of assimilated individuals into the wild to mature a generation. If they even needed to be in the wild? Why? The DNA into the transporters didn’t seem to need Picard to be out there. They could have bred any number of generations of transmitters, couldn’t they have? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/179 "2023-04-13T16:18:07Z")
Even more precarious then you let on. How could they know Picard was going to saved? That wasn’t part of the plan at all. They tried to destroy the shuttle he was on, and then later it was said “The Borg can’t just cut him off. Its like cutting off your arm.” Best fanwank I can think of was it wasn’t a plan from BoBW. Picard has had a long weird life. Maybe the events of one ep resulted in the Borg noticing they still could detect him. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922/180 "2023-04-14T03:07:12Z")
I know Beverly was lonely after Wesley went off with the Traveler, but in retrospect maybe she should’ve gotten an abortion. WTF is their plan now? Go up against all of Starfleet in a literal museum piece? 🤨 Assemble a rag-tag fugitive fleet out of un-networked civilian ships and lead them accross the galaxy to a new home? Granted thanks to Discovery we know the Borg will loose in the end. > [@Data](#): > > I hope we die quickly! OK, _that_ was funny. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-picard-season-3-discussion-open-spoilers/979922.md?page=10)