# Star Trek Prodigy the latest to be canceled and erased

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [June 23, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004 "2023-06-23T18:56:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/21 "2023-06-24T00:14:52Z")

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I believe Darren meant that you should pie-rate it…

Star Trek Prodigy: As Good As Two Blueberry Pies.  
Star Trek TOS: Three Key Lime Pies.  
Star Trek V: One Soggy Crust.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/22 "2023-06-24T03:55:41Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I’d like to remind you, and all the other posters, that the SDMB supports copyrights and forbids recommendations to break the law, especially copyright law.

Right from the Puzzlegal Department.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/23 "2023-06-24T04:19:47Z")

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Disclaimer: this is not a legal opinion, but I was under the impression that following the [Betamax case](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.) it was ruled legal fair use to tape shows onto VHS or from Internet streaming and watch them later.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/24 "2023-06-26T15:21:21Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> Disclaimer: this is not a legal opinion, but I was under the impression that following the [Betamax case](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.) it was ruled legal fair use to tape shows onto VHS or from Internet streaming and watch them later.

I’m not a lawyer nor a criminal. But my understanding is that pirating a show means you obtained a copy without paying the people who owned the rights. So if you had a subscription to the Paramount streaming service and copied episodes of _Star Trek: Prodigy_ as they were broadcast, that would be legal. But if you downloaded copies of the show off a site like P\*\*\*\*\* B\*\* and didn’t pay Paramount anything, that’s illegal.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/25 "2023-06-26T16:20:51Z")

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This reminded me to check the episode guide for _Star Trek:Prodigy_ and realize that I had only watched the first half of the season. Somehow (I suspect because I was dealing with a number of health issues at the time) I missed the second half. So Sunday I binge-watched all the episodes I missed, primarily to be sure I didn’t miss them before Paramount+ took them off their streaming service.

I liked the way it went, and am sad that there won’t be a second season, as I would have liked to see their continuing adventures.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/26 "2023-06-26T23:21:14Z")

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I do not think how much you did or did not pay Paramount is an issue (and how would they know)? Nor does the “P\*\*\*\*\* B\*\*” host any files. The problem with simply downloading the files from an (unauthorized) third party, instead of directly from the streaming service which is fair use, is that technically you (or the file-sharer, or both, depending on various circumstances) may fall afoul of unauthorized reproduction of copyrighted material. If it’s literally impossible to get the media any other way because it has been canceled and erased, that’s a dilemma, and I have no idea how much time has to pass before it is again fair use of historical material (some shows and films have been recovered long after they were considered lost) or decriminalized or if anyone keeps track of it at all.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/27 "2023-06-27T13:25:23Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> I do not think how much you did or did not pay Paramount is an issue?

The payment itself is not the issue. The issue is who owns the rights.

Paramount owns the rights to _Star Trek: Prodigy_. So if you are watching the show on its streaming service then the rights owner to the series has given authorization for you to do so. The same is true if you watch the show on a dvd. Paramount accepted whatever it felt was acceptable compensation for the show’s release on dvd.

I certainly won’t argue that this is a perfect system. It’s possible, as this thread has shown, for a rights owner to simply withdraw a work from all legal means of being viewed. Maybe our system should include some form of compulsory licensing.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/28 "2023-06-27T14:11:07Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Most of the “streaming service removes its own self-produced show from live library” thing that’s been happening lately is so the parent studio doesn’t have to keep writing these residuals checks to the actors etc. every time a subscriber clicks Play.

would this also be true for streaming things on Kanopy? (which is all public libraries as far as I know)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/29 "2023-10-12T02:41:59Z")

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> **[‘Star Trek: Prodigy’ Moves to Netflix After Paramount+ Cancellation](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/star-trek-prodigy-netflix-pickup-1235615236/)**
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> Both seasons of the animated kids show, including the unaired sophomore run, have found a new home.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/30 "2023-12-29T02:13:07Z")

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> **[Star Trek Takes Over Netflix Days After Being Added](https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/star-trek-takes-over-netflix.html)**
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> In just a few short days, Star Trek has dominated Netflix all across the globe taking over the streaming platform.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/31 "2024-03-27T18:41:37Z")

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This is weird. The full second season has been released in France without notice or advertising. There has been no release date even mentioned for the US and elsewhere yet.

> **[Star Trek: Prodigy Season 2 Has OFFICIALLY Premiered – Trek Central](https://trekcentral.net/star-trek-prodigy-season-2-has-officially-premiered/?amp=1)**
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> On Friday 22nd of March, Star Trek: Prodigy Season 2 appeared online via FranceTV. This is the French national broadcaster ‘France Télévisions’. Trekkies were initially confused at the sudden release of the anticipated second season. The second...

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-prodigy-the-latest-to-be-canceled-and-erased/986004/32 "2024-06-11T01:25:23Z")

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All of season two to be released in not France on July 1st.

> **[Netflix To Release All 20 Episodes Of ‘Star Trek: Prodigy’ Season 2 In July;...](https://trekmovie.com/2024/06/04/netflix-to-release-all-20-episodes-of-star-trek-prodigy-season-2-in-july-also-coming-to-skyshowtime/)**
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> Also, Dan and Kevin Hageman hype the new season.

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