# Star Trek: Strange New Worlds announced, features original Enterprise NCC-1701 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 20, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167 "2020-05-20T03:08:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/1 "2020-05-20T03:08:02Z")
I haven’t seen a thread about this yet, but the news should be of general interest to all _Star Trek_ fans. CBS All Access announced on Friday that it will air a spin-off of _Star Trek: Discovery_, to be called _Star Trek: Strange New Worlds_. It will feature the characters of Pike, Spock, and Number One, and be set on the USS Enterprise just before Kirk’s Era, as based on the original series pilot episode _The Cage_, and the later TOS episode _The Menagerie_. > [@](#): > > “Star Trek: Strange New Worlds” will follow the adventures of the crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise, including science officer Spock (Ethan Peck), Captain Christopher Pike (Anson Mount) and Number One (Rebecca Romijn) in the third new “Trek” series for the streaming service. The action is set in the decade before James T. Kirk took the helm of that starship. > **['Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' expands franchise with Spock, Captain Pike on...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/05/15/new-cbs-all-access-star-trek-show-features-spock-enterprise/5201342002/)** > > CBS All Access will explore the pre-Kirk years of the U.S.S. Enterprise with "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds," featuring Mr. Spock and Captain Pike. No word on other casting, but presumably the series will also feature other characters from _The Cage_, such as Dr. Boyce, Lt. Tyler, and Yeoman Colt. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/2 "2020-05-20T03:11:24Z")
Great news! Thanks for sharing. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/3 "2020-05-20T03:11:32Z")
When I first read this story I thought it weird to have Rebecca Romijn in it, when she’s in _The Orville_. But then I realised I was confusing her with Adrianne Palicki. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/4 "2020-05-20T05:31:54Z")
Star Trek: Discovery Star Trek: Picard Star Trek: Lower Decks Star Trek: Section 31 Star Trek: Strange New Worlds You got to hand it to CBS, they really know how to pace themselves. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/5 "2020-05-20T05:48:04Z")
Hot damn, another Trek fix! ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/6 "2020-05-20T09:51:50Z")
The uniqueness of Spock is getting a bit diluted. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/7 "2020-05-20T10:57:44Z")
Are they going to have an emotionless Number One, and an emotional but mild mannered Spock? Or maybe they will both be emotionless. Either way, I don’t think this is going to work. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/8 "2020-05-20T11:16:26Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Are they going to have an emotionless Number One, and an emotional but mild mannered Spock? Or maybe they will both be emotionless. Either way, I don’t think this is going to work. The characters and the Enterprise have already appeared in several episodes of _Star Trek: Discovery_ and have been well-received by fans. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvsMpE6blo) ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/9 "2020-05-20T11:38:40Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Star Trek: Discovery > Star Trek: Picard > Star Trek: Lower Decks > Star Trek: Section 31 > Star Trek: Strange New Worlds > > You got to hand it to CBS, they really know how to pace themselves. They are doing for Star Trek what Disney did for Star Wars. But really if they can somehow get back to the original (and Orville) style and not the kelvin timeline style they will finally have something. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/10 "2020-05-20T11:45:34Z")
Ironic people are stuck in the past over a show about the future. Should we model all sitcoms after “Leave It to Beaver” as well? ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/11 "2020-05-20T12:45:17Z")
Strange New Worlds? It seems like they were always populated by humanoid aliens who somehow spoke English and had civilizations that were thinly-veiled analogues to 20th century era human societies with the same social problems, which the crew of the Enterprise would involve themselves in fixing, despite the Prime Directive that they routinely defied. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/12 "2020-05-20T16:19:48Z")
As long as they keep it episodic (as is rumored), I couldn’t be happier. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/13 "2020-05-21T20:35:26Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Ironic people are stuck in the past over a show about the future. > Should we model all sitcoms after “Leave It to Beaver” as well? If you made a show set in the _Leave It to Beaver_ universe designed to appeal to the fans of such? Then, yes. And the fact that they keep ignoring what has gone on before is the problem. It’s not really looking to the past, just superficially setting things in the past to get views. They do not want to work within the restraints of the continuity. And they seem to want to have a more pessimistic future because they’re not good enough to write conflict in a more optimistic setting. I would love it if they’d actually look to the past, because I believe that is what we need in this more pessimistic time. I don’t like seeing that both TOS and TNG were false fronts hiding a darker underbelly. DS9 remains as dark as I wanted Star Trek to go, and it only ever worked due to the contrast and respect for its concurrent shows. They made it work within the same universe. I have trouble seeing how they can do a reverse DS9 to get me interested. The setting the show in the past again here does not make me optimistic they aren’t going to do more of the same. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/14 "2020-05-21T22:49:23Z")
I did like the “Spock and #1 get stuck in the turbo lift” mini-episode. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/15 "2020-05-21T23:13:24Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Star Trek: Discovery > Star Trek: Picard > Star Trek: Lower Decks > Star Trek: Section 31 > Star Trek: Strange New Worlds > > You got to hand it to CBS, they really know how to pace themselves. Make hay while the sun shines. > [@Grrr](#): > > Ironic people are stuck in the past over a show about the future. _Star Trek_ has never really been “about the future”; the elevator pitch for the original series was “_Wagon Train_ in space” and while the first series of _Star Trek: The Next Generation_ made some vague attempts of trying to demonstrate that they lived in a post-scarcity civilization, that pretty quickly boiled down to finding reasons why the replicator couldn’t just make anything somebody wanted and finding the occasional alien species that they couldn’t communicate with via the “universal translator”. A true show about a possible future in space exploration like _The Expanse_ is very challenging to both write and shoot, and rarely accrues the kind of broad fanbase of space opera like _Star Trek_ or _Battlestar Galactica_. > [@Grrr](#): > > Should we model all sitcoms after “Leave It to Beaver” as well? Don’t be silly; all sitcoms are either modeled after _The Honeymooners_, _I Love Lucy_, _The Andy Griffith Show_, or _The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis_. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/16 "2020-05-22T13:23:47Z")
I think the Enterprise from Discovery looks gorgeous! [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=962lhW1g2y0) ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/17 "2020-05-22T13:35:58Z")
[quote=“Icerigger, post:16, topic:854167”] I think the Enterprise from Discovery looks gorgeous! [/QUOTE] This seems like pure fan service. I mean, it’s good to make viewers happy and occasionally nostalgic, but the problem with prequels of any kind is often that they risk just being sort of a filler without any real purpose or distiction (see \*Solo: A Star Wars Story\*) and the producing studio is often unwilling to take risks that take it out of that comfort zone, so much of the effort is in trying to manufacture some real conflict while staying within or rationalizing continuity. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/18 "2020-05-22T15:04:18Z")
I thought Discovery was abysmal, but I have a little bit of hope for this because the title suggests an approach more consistent with Star Trek’s better series - episodic and optimistic. Discovery’s nonsensical plotting was in part because it wasn’t truly an episodic show, but just a long extended movie that failed to keep all the story straight or logical. Unfortunately… > [@Story about this show](#): > > … with executive producer Akiva Goldsman writing the series premiere and Alex Kurtzman, who oversees all CBS All Access “Trek” series, also serving as executive producer. … they have the same guys in charge, so I fully expect the story will be essentially a soap opera; melodramatic, non-episodic, and full of gaping plot holes. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/19 "2020-05-22T17:11:22Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Ironic people are stuck in the past over a show about the future. > Should we model all sitcoms after “Leave It to Beaver” as well? Because they are changing the nature of the show. Make a new show and call it something else. If it iOS good, people;le will watch it. Stop shitting on the legacy of good shows. You want to launch a new Leave it to Beaver, supposedly set in the same 50s universe, but Beaver acts like a droog and always goes for the ultra-violence. Why? You want to make new Star Trek, except that Starfleet is more like the Klingons, and every ST show that exists is retconned to be propaganda for the masses? That none of it was true? If you hate Star Trek that much, just make something else. Hell, make a show featuring TOS-era Klingons. I know I’m not the only one watching these new Treks. The old stuff is still there. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167/20 "2020-05-22T20:15:38Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Strange New Worlds? It seems like they were always populated by humanoid aliens who somehow spoke English and had civilizations that were thinly-veiled analogues to 20th century era human societies with the same social problems, which the crew of the Enterprise would involve themselves in fixing, despite the Prime Directive that they routinely defied. Hey! Sometimes they were thinly-veiled analogues to _19th_ century era human societies! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-announced-features-original-enterprise-ncc-1701/854167.md?page=2)