# Star Trek Strange New Worlds season three {summer 2025}

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
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**Created:** [April 2, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541 "2025-04-02T21:07:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/21 "2025-07-19T17:28:35Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> The Q have said they couldn’t reproduce until they did so in Voyager (although the Voyager stuff was after the book was published)

According to Memory Alpha, Q2 was the first child born to the Continuum in “millennia” which fits with SNW Trelane’s age of 8020 years. I have seen lots of speculation that SNW Trelane is Q2 and this is just non-linear storytelling but it’s also entirely possible that they are two separate kids. Having said that, SNW Trelane being Q’s first child probably doesn’t line up with Q being a clueless dad in Voyager.

I do appreciate the tribute to Peter David, even if it wasn’t specifically intended as such. In the novel “Q Squared” he does heavily imply that Trelane is Q’s child. He also wrote “Q-in-Law” where Q ends up romantically involved with Lwaxana Troi. Fun books, well worth a read.

> [@Quimby](#):
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> And that doesn’t even cover why Spock et al. would have no memory of dealing with him here when they meet him “again” in the Squire of Gothos.

SNW and TOS aren’t set in the same universe, history just tends to bend events into the same general shapes even when things don’t play out as they should (such as Khan being about 30 years younger in this timeline). Star Trek 2009 explicitly spelled this out as well. With all the temporal shenanigans we have seen across all the series, I can buy changes propagating back and forth through time leaving us with a very different universe than we started with. After all, if we take TOS as the “Prime” universe, we have to deal with Pike struggling to accept the idea of having women on the bridge, which doesn’t square with this show at all.

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Except for the fact that he looked like an Andorian to them the entire time.

He appeared Vulcan to Spock, who commented that he wasn’t aware the ship had a Vulcan bartender (who also does weddings?).

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> He appeared Vulcan to Spock, who commented that he wasn’t aware the ship had a Vulcan bartender (who also does weddings?).

He appeared as a Vulcan to jilted Spock. He appeared as an Andorian to groom Spock (and the rest of the people in the altered reality.)

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/23 "2025-07-21T23:46:32Z")

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Rhys Darbie really is the perfect actor for that part. He perfectly nailed the mannerisms and attitude.

Perhaps it would have been too on the nose, but I wouldn’t have minded just one line at the end, something to the effect of, “He really is a very naughty young thing, and this should not have happened,” and with the snap of a finger everyone loses memory of the previous 48 hours (or has them replaced with other memories). Seems well within Q’s power set. He could even add something like, “you are not ready for this yet.” Of course, if we really are talking different timelines, then there is no conflict to resolve.

Loved the Edosian bartender. Is that the first of their species we’ve seen in live-action Trek?

Also appreciated that they put Scotty in the same tartan they used in TOS.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/24 "2025-07-21T23:50:06Z")

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> [@carlb](#):
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> Loved the Edosian bartender. Is that the first of their species we’ve seen in live-action Trek?

I think so. I didn’t think they quite nailed the look of it, though.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/25 "2025-07-21T23:53:10Z")

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I think the bartender was actually a “Triexian”. They’re a lot like the Edosians but less, er, animated. On the subject of TZ references I kind of wondered if she was a (very) veiled reference to the three-armed character in “Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up”. That would be kind of meta given that said character was portrayed by John Hoyt, who later would portray Doctor Boyce on, you guessed it, Star Trek.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/26 "2025-07-22T18:19:11Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> I think the bartender was actually a “Triexian”. They’re a lot like the Edosians but less, er, animated.

Memory-Alpha and [startrek.com](http://startrek.com) both referred to her (and Arex, from _TAS_) as, “Endosian,” so that’s what I went with. 🤷‍♂️

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/27 "2025-07-23T14:29:29Z")

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I think they were making a joke because they are basically two names for the same race. They were called Triexians where they first appeared in the Animated series but later the race was called Edosan.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/28 "2025-07-25T01:24:14Z")

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I didn’t love latest episode. Much angst, no Carol Kane, the coincidences of the Klingons seems too contrived, didn’t love the moss zombies.

Also why did I think Patton Oswalt was going to be in this one?

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/29 "2025-07-25T01:35:32Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Also why did I think Patton Oswalt was going to be in this one?

I can’t find anywhere that mentions which episode he’s going to be in. Going by the episode titles only, I think it will probably be episode 6, “The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail”. (Second choice, 4.5 Vulcans.)

(I like at least that they openly called the zombies zombies, instead of pretending not to know what a zombie is when you see an obvious zombie. Zombie.)

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/30 "2025-07-25T19:03:09Z")

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Hey, we don’t use the zee word here.  
They film in Toronto. I wish Pike said zed.

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That was the very definition of a “housekeeping” episode where Captain Clueless essentially gets caught up with all of us who watched the “previously on…” and the pins are set up for the inevitable “we are more Gorn than Human” episode for those characters who apparently don’t live long enough to appear in TOS.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/32 "2025-07-26T20:44:51Z")

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Muppet Trek

> **[See 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' season 4 turn Anson Mount into a Muppet](https://ew.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-4-anson-mount-muppet-11779705)**
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> 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' season 4 turns Anson Mount's Captain Pike into a Muppet by way of the Jim Henson's Creature Shop. See a first look out of the show's San Diego Comic-Con panel.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/33 "2025-07-31T07:31:11Z")

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Episode four parodied _Star Trek TOS_ harder than _Lower Decks_. That won’t make some people happy. It was another mostly light episode, but I didn’t laugh out loud until in the final moments when definitely not William Shatner tried to Riker the captain’s chair.

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That was an amusing bit. And I liked the repeat of the hologram adventure that threatened the ship storyline.

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There’s always that _one_ _episode_ in season 3, isn’t there? I think it must be in the contract(s).

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-three-summer-2025/1016541/36 "2025-08-01T01:36:12Z")

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I think the Parody was so affectionate I don’t see anyone complaining.

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Me?

It was too _cute_, too wink wink, too self aware mugging it up.

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Fair. I did think Uhura’s speech about the show was little self congratulatory even if it was true.

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Uhura’s speech about the show was little self congratulatory even if it was true.

Nobody can crawl further up their own ass than the writers on _Star Trek._

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In case anyone didn’t catch it, this episode was directed by good ol’ Jonathan Frakes.

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