# Star Trek Strange New Worlds trailer and now begins Streaming 2022/05/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [March 10, 2022, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804 "2022-03-10T06:54:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/221 "2022-06-10T12:58:29Z")
I liked the episode but I feel that it wasn’t really possible to adapt “Omelas” to the Star Trek setting, I mean you already have Omelas but without the suffering child in the Federation, there is not much impact in adding another utopic civilization BUT one with the suffering child. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/222 "2022-06-10T16:10:00Z")
To be fair, they have an example to crib from. New Worlds is more or less The Orville, but without the attempts at wedging in humor, and actually using Star Trek names and lore rather than parodies of them. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/223 "2022-06-10T20:18:12Z")
I think this is the first time an Enterprise captain couldn’t save the day by blowing up the computer. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/224 "2022-06-10T22:11:24Z")
A major takeaway was Pike facing his “service and sacrifice” personal credo being applied to a child instead of a Starfleet officer. He is resigned to his destiny based on his personality and the expectations of his culture. It is painful to watch a child do the same. Sometimes there is a no win scenario. (Kirk would have blasted the Machine, Pike accepted that he had no authority to do so.) ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/225 "2022-06-10T23:04:13Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Sometimes there is a no win scenario. > (Kirk would have blasted the Machine, Pike accepted that he had no authority to do so.) Once the kid was strapped into the machine, he was as good as dead anyway. Removing him from the machine would have killed him; they made that explicit. _Brave New Worlds_ made a very bold choice here; the whole time I was thinking, “No way they’d kill the kid.” And they _did._ ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/226 "2022-06-10T23:14:35Z")
_Strange_, not _Brave._ We all know what you meant,though. 😉 I had nightmares after watching this episode just before bed. Yeesh! Questions: Was the First Servant ever fully cognizant of what he would be going through and that it would slowly kill him? I mean, did he give fully informed consent when he accepted “with joy and gratitude”? If he wasn’t totally informed, that’s…dishonest. Did he have any idea how horrible his duty would be? What if he had changed his mind and said, nope, no way am I doing this…? Would they shove him into the contraption anyway? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/227 "2022-06-10T23:39:26Z")
A child, regardless of augmentation, instruction, or manipulation cannot give informed consent by our definitions. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/228 "2022-06-11T01:49:57Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > child, regardless of augmentation, instruction, or manipulation cannot give informed consent by our definitions. For me, at least part of what makes sci-fi interesting is the possibility that other beings might not use our definitions. In such cases we have to decide what to do. What choice we make will likely have drawbacks and consequences. Taking that kind of situation seriously appeals to me. I really like how it played out. Pike was not able to engineer a perfect ending. And who knows whether everyone in that world would agree what a better ending would be. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/229 "2022-06-11T01:55:19Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > And who knows whether everyone in that world would agree what a better ending would be. The ones on Prospect 7 know. They walked away from Omelas. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/230 "2022-06-11T01:59:15Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > They walked away from Omelas. I was today years old when I heard about that story, and it is _devastating_. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/231 "2022-06-11T02:01:10Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > What if he had changed his mind and said, nope, no way am I doing this…? Would they shove him into the contraption anyway? It was pretty clear when he saw the body of the former First Servant that he had second thoughts and it was not clear to him (prior to that moment) the true meaning of his sacrifice. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/232 "2022-06-11T02:10:15Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > I was today years old when I heard about that story, and it is _devastating_ . I am both sad and glad for you. Sad because it IS a haunting story and has stuck with me ever since I read it 40 or so years ago (I’m 54). Glad because it is among the best short-story fiction out there and _everyone_ should read it - especially first-worlders on planet Earth. Were I god-king, it would be required reading in 8th or 9th grade. 13-14 years old sounds about right - possibly colored by when I read it. My complaint above not withstanding, ST: SNW actually did a damn decent job of translating the gist of the story to the small screen. They just should have credited Le Guin for it. FYI - I thought the lack of the “Doogie Howser” log entry ending was perfect for this episode. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/233 "2022-06-11T04:35:04Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > For me, at least part of what makes sci-fi interesting is the possibility that other beings might not use our definitions. In such cases we have to decide what to do. That reminds me of a similar episode of _Stargate:SG1_: > **[Learning Curve](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Learning_Curve)** > > "Learning Curve" is the fifth episode of the third season of Stargate SG-1. SG-1 is impressed with the learning power of Orbanian children but soon learns that the children eventually go through a ceremony which removes the nanites from the children... ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/234 "2022-06-11T05:23:42Z")
One more thing… Just how long does the First Servant last while hooked up to the godawful brainpower sucker? Those tubes and wires were going into his head, but are they also providing nutrition and hydration? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/235 "2022-06-11T12:21:24Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Just how long does the First Servant last while hooked up to the > godawful brainpower sucker? Those tubes and wires were going into his head, but are they also providing nutrition and hydration? “Hey, kid… it ain’t that kinda movie.” ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/236 "2022-06-12T19:50:28Z")
Oh gawd…they made another one [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/luEDui2zAUw/maxresdefault.jpg "Star Trek: Voyager: The Animated Series") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luEDui2zAUw) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/237 "2022-06-12T20:11:55Z")
That was fun. What do you mean by “another one”? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/238 "2022-06-12T20:18:11Z")
I thought this had been posted here…but it might be in the Picard thread. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Jyz2pVqrEkI/maxresdefault.jpg "Star Trek: The Next Generation: The Animated Series") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyz2pVqrEkI) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/239 "2022-06-12T20:25:25Z")
Nice! ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/240 "2022-06-12T22:38:25Z")
Im rewatching some TAS now…the first ep “Beyond the Farthest Star” is solid as hell…and the next ep? “Yesteryear”? A triumph. Nothing wrong at all. Quality-wise (As far as writing) compared to animation of the time, I’d put it up there with Chuck Jones Rikki-Tiki-Tavi. Animation-wise…well it is TAS. But they have some nice scenery work. And they got Mark Lenard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804.md?page=13)