# Star Trek Strange New Worlds trailer and now begins Streaming 2022/05/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [March 10, 2022, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804 "2022-03-10T06:54:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/241 "2022-06-13T05:02:19Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > Did anyone else notice during Spock’s Pon Farr dream that the incidental music used during the fight was the [same melody used during the Amok Time episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCamCYip2t4) in TOS (and many other fight scenes in other episodes)? I’m only caught up with this episode (watched it last night) but I did notice this. Did anyone notice that when Number One and Noonien Singh were tapping off one of the line items on their pad, it played a very fast version of the first few notes of the classic Star Trek theme? ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/242 "2022-06-13T13:31:02Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > This was more Pike and M’Benga centered. Concerning M’Benga, I found myself wondering if the writers were going to choose this moment to cure his daughter. Perfect time for a miracle when they encounter a culture which has the technology to eliminate all disease. Wisely, I think, they chose not to do so. This not only helps maintain a certain dramatic tension with the character but avoids putting another of what would likely be an annoying kid on screen. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/243 "2022-06-13T16:01:19Z")
There are no indications of any other children on the ship - that would imply that M’Benga and company would have to leave. It wasn’t until NG that we had families/children on board. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/244 "2022-06-13T16:44:55Z")
> [@simster](#): > > It wasn’t until NG that we had families/children on board. That covers the plot hole of the doctor having to explain why his daughter wasn’t around any more. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/245 "2022-06-13T16:51:12Z")
and is maybe why he was replaced as Chief Medical Officer when Bones came on board. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/246 "2022-06-13T18:32:53Z")
I personally think something’s going to happen and M’Benga will get in trouble and demoted. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/247 "2022-06-13T18:36:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Okay another solid episode. About cultural differences and moral and ethical choices. No episode has been like spectacular but just keep writing solid stores and characters and you’ll get there. It was a slam-bang Star Trek episode if ever I’ve seen one. That was some really first rate Trek. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/248 "2022-06-13T21:14:27Z")
I was behind a few weeks and finally caught up. This show is great and everything I want in a Trek series. If I would give one quibble, when Evil Scientist Queen (I know she isn’t really Evil) claimed the Federation also had children who were poor, sick etc. I would have liked Pike to push back. The whole point of Star Trek is humanity solved those problems. That’s what makes it different from most TV sci fi. Just a minor quibble though. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/249 "2022-06-13T21:47:53Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > If I would give one quibble, when Evil Scientist Queen (I know she isn’t really Evil) claimed the Federation also had children who were poor, sick etc. I would have liked Pike to push back. The whole point of Star Trek is humanity solved those problems. There are still probably children being abused by their parents, though, right? Kids being kidnapped and living in squalor in the middle of forests in a shack? Besides, only Earth and the inner worlds have really solved the problems of poverty. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/250 "2022-06-13T21:54:14Z")
The point of the Federation isn’t that it’s perfect - it’s that it strives for perfection. When it sees suffering and injustice, it tries to fix them, no matter what. Even though it may have far more children suffering in it than in the episode’s near-utopia, it never _accepts_ their suffering. That’s what makes it so special. The Federation isn’t a post-scarcity society, it’s a post-cynicism society. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/251 "2022-06-13T23:33:19Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I would have liked Pike to push back. “Difference is - we punish those that knowingly do what you just did - \ - I don’t know what happened to her - she mustof been beamed off world.” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/252 "2022-06-13T23:36:37Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > here are still probably children being abused by their parents, though, right? Kids being kidnapped and living in squalor in the middle of forests in a shack? Besides, only Earth and the inner worlds have really solved the problems of poverty. Yeah, remember, Tasha Yar grew up on Rapeworld. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/253 "2022-06-14T00:19:01Z")
Yeah I realize there are problems but he could have said something…again it was a minor complaint. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/254 "2022-06-14T03:44:33Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > If I would give one quibble It’s never just one quibble. Every quibble is born pregnant. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/255 "2022-06-14T03:55:33Z")
Are we yet at the point at which we can say that _The Orville_ is no longer necessary? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/256 "2022-06-14T06:45:41Z")
Hardly. The Orville provides its own great universe of stories, and after having had to endure Discovery and Picard, made for a nice new home for us Trekkies. Long love both! ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/257 "2022-06-14T08:07:16Z")
Didn’t Tasha Yar grow up on a world with literal rape gangs? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/258 "2022-06-14T09:01:09Z")
Hell in Mudds Women there are still women sold as brides to miners who don’t even own dishwashers. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/259 "2022-06-14T13:49:06Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Are we yet at the point at which we can say that _The Orville_ is no longer necessary? After watching the Orville’s S3 (New Horizons) Ep 1, yeah… that was just a dull humorless version of The Orville. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/260 "2022-06-14T22:59:03Z")
I remember one of the novels speculated that the Federation was more conservative in Kirk’s era because the Federation culture was being steered more by the frontier worlds and colonies (who had a more individualist streak) then vs. TNG’s time where the core worlds held more sway. I thought that was a great in universe explanation for the differing social mores between the shows). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804.md?page=14)