# Star Trek Strange New Worlds trailer and now begins Streaming 2022/05/09

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\
**Created:** [March 10, 2022, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804 "2022-03-10T06:54:13Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/281 "2022-06-19T13:03:01Z")

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I’ve held off on adding another streamer despite the attraction of the ST franchise but the great reviews I’m seeing of this show, here and elsewhere, are making me revisit that resolve.

If I pull the trigger can I start with this show, skip Discovery, and be fine? I’d double back to Picard at some point …

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/282 "2022-06-19T13:34:20Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> If I pull the trigger can I start with this show, skip Discovery, and be fine?

You’ll miss out on some of the set-up for the first episode, but there’s enough in the show itself that you’ll be able to figure things out.

That being said, the Pike episodes of Discovery are the best ones, so are probably worth watching as well. The rest of Disco, not so much.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/283 "2022-06-19T15:02:35Z")

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I am pretty sure anything you would need to know from Discovery is in the recap in front of the first episode.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/284 "2022-06-19T21:16:15Z")

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not really - no. The only part they recap seems to be the one fact he is dealing with and a couple of other random bits - which will make far more sense if you see season 2 of disco.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/285 "2022-06-20T04:22:15Z")

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I liked Discovery but I’m clearly in the minority.

And even I have my gripes.

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/286 "2022-06-20T18:18:05Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> As for Pike…well yeah…just don’t let Kirk have the skip or inspect any cadet ships and you’re invulnerable!

I think there is the implication that he could actually do this and be fine, but also that means he’d be dooming those cadets to death. Is it worth it to let a bunch of innocent people die to save yourself from the beeping chair?

Edit: I also liked Discovery, I like Michael Burnham and I appreciated them taking big plot swings. I am also grateful for it starting a new golden age of Trek. I think the production troubles it’s had, with multiple different showrunners over the seasons and other woes, has made it less than it should have been. I’ve also never really liked the mechanical design of the show; from the beginning I complained about how it looks nothing like TOS and now feel vindicated with the way Strange New Worlds fulfills the promise of a modern show set in Kirk’s starfleet.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/287 "2022-06-22T18:49:04Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I also like how they went back to the theme of the Federation’s aversion to genetic engineering. I’ve always liked how it portrayed the usually enlightened Federation in shades of gray.

But why is genetic engineering such a taboo in the Federation? We never get any indication other species had analogs of the Eugenics Wars on Earth. Denobulians Star Trek has never (at least until Discovery season 3) made a clear distinction between Earth and the Federation. Humans are so overwhelming dominant in the Federation it feels like humanity is just assimilating other civilizations into it’s own. That’s a very dark shade of grey.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/288 "2022-06-22T19:08:34Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> But why is genetic engineering such a taboo in the Federation?

Because of Khan Noonian Singh and the Eugenics Wars. That happened on Earth before, I believe, first contact.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/289 "2022-06-22T19:15:30Z")

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Yes, that explains why Earth has such a ban, but what about all the other Federation member worlds? 🤨

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/290 "2022-06-22T19:17:37Z")

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Because Earth is one of the founding members of the Federation. Presumably, when the founders came together, they brought the experiences of their individual histories to the table to negotiate basic principles.

I believe, at least in some versions, the founding members were Earth, the Vulcans, the Andorians, and the Tellarites.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/291 "2022-06-23T19:18:45Z")

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I’m just gonna assume that when Kirk takes over, almost everyone resigns cause Kirk snaps at his crew and doesn’t encourage a familial, arguing, editorializing atmosphere.

Ironically, Kirk’s core crew stays together for an insanely long time.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/292 "2022-06-23T19:49:16Z")

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How to have a holodeck malfunction story without a holodeck…

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/293 "2022-06-24T00:40:19Z")

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Not without its precedent (Qpid, ShoreLeave, etc).

I am glad they resolved the one story line - and in a way thats not completely a ‘very special episode’. The resolution is also not entirely without precedent (Metamorphasis).

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/294 "2022-06-24T01:01:11Z")

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So just what does everyone think happened to Rukiya? Did M’Benga fake her death before hiding her in the pattern buffer?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/295 "2022-06-24T18:23:14Z")

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That was great. A combination of a Godlike Being episode and a Mirror Universe episode (for all effects and purposes). Fun, and a good resolution for the story arc.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/296 "2022-06-24T19:40:00Z")

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Yes, some starship-trapping alien space clouds are less friendly.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/297 "2022-06-25T04:45:17Z")

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Maybe he just said she was staying with relatives elsewhere. She’s very ill, so she might not be expected to attend even tele-school.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/298 "2022-06-25T18:57:01Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That was great. A combination of a Godlike Being episode and a Mirror Universe episode (for all effects and purposes).

My favorite part was a sniveling Anson Mount.

I got the feeling that the actors were enjoying themselves in playing against their usual roles. I bet there were a lot of bloopers getting that episode done.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/299 "2022-06-25T19:07:00Z")

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A real throwback episode - and a lot of fun. I’m glad they resolved the Rukiya plot - it was okay up until now but it’s the kind of hanging plot that can really screw with a show of they don’t deal with it.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/300 "2022-06-25T20:35:21Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I got the feeling that the actors were enjoying themselves in playing against their usual roles.

That was the original point of the Mirror Universe episodes in TOS and DS9 - they were there for the actors to play against type and goof around. It was later that they forgot to be fun and started to suck.

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