# Star Trek Strange New Worlds trailer and now begins Streaming 2022/05/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [March 10, 2022, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804 "2022-03-10T06:54:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/101 "2022-05-13T09:45:03Z")
Yes, you are right again. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/102 "2022-05-13T11:25:42Z")
Just dropping in to say that there’s a lot of middle ground between hard SF and science fantasy. I don’t think Star Trek has ever really been the latter. And that there is a difference between where it sat on that spectrum in TOS vs where it sat in the TNG-era. TNG got stricter with it, and established a lot more of the “rules” of the science in that universe, while TOS kinda just fell into them. Still, people tend to expect those rules to be followed. I’ve not yet seen the show, and am intrigued, but am waiting for more episodes to come out before investing. My concern from reading the Wikipedia page is stuff about continuity, and how certain things will interact with established canon. To avoid spoiling, I’ll simply say it’s a returning character from a single yet important TOS episode. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/103 "2022-05-13T12:34:12Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > TNG got stricter with it, and established a lot more of the “rules” of the science in that universe, while TOS kinda just fell into them. Still, people tend to expect those rules to be followed. But those “rules” aren’t anywhere near hard science. They are more like the rules of a fantasy setting. I watched episode two last night and I am generally satisfied with the direction of this show. Discovery and Picard have left me with such a bad taste in my mouth that I’m not sure yet that I will like Strange New Worlds, but it’s showing promise. I’m starting to feel optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/104 "2022-05-15T04:01:11Z")
I disagree with the premise that we are less xenophobic then in the 60’s. And as i noted…Russians being barred from individually barred from Wimbeldon and chess tournements would seem to bear this out. And Chinese?? Thats the definition of safe woke. Look at the relationship the NBA and Hollywood has with China. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/105 "2022-05-16T03:26:33Z")
I loved the second episode. I’m really liking Pike as a captain. Very relatable. I also like how it was Uhura-focused. But her character is too much like Hoshi on _Enterprise_. Linguistic genius who goes into space to learn new alien languages but doesn’t really want to be in Starfleet… That’s essentially the same character background. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/106 "2022-05-16T03:38:34Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Episode 2 had a solid Trek story - mysterious space structure! Powerful one-off aliens with a defined purpose! - strong plotting, and the character stuff was good and tied into the plot. If the show can maintain this level of quality, I’ll be very happy. Yeah, this was far more Star Trekish. They cut down on hugging and weeping. Perfectly episodic. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/107 "2022-05-16T03:41:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > But her character is too much like Hoshi on _Enterprise_ Someone remembers the characters from that show? Anyway, it doesn’t bother me if character back stories are similar. There’s nothing new under the Sun after all. M What matters is what they do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/108 "2022-05-16T03:51:49Z")
It doesn’t bother me too much. And I think Hoshi was a callback to Uhura anyway, so it’s something of an Ouroboros. But it’s really close, so much so that it’s a bit lazy. All that said, just a minor quibble. The actress was awesome and her writing was good so it’s not a big deal. She pulled off the “I’m a nervous newbie” thing without being annoying at all, which was something of a miracle. I think it helps that she had a backbone too. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/109 "2022-05-16T05:56:10Z")
I don’t know why they have reimagined Uhura as a “linguist”. She is a Comms officer, a different specialty. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/110 "2022-05-16T09:23:02Z")
At least they didn’t have Uhura learn a new language in an hour. Musical notation and math is much more believable. ---
**Author:** ![de\_Worde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@de\_Worde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/de_Worde)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/111 "2022-05-16T15:02:12Z")
Since I like this show so much, I had to go back and watch The Menagerie again. I kept (irrationally) thinking that Uhura should have been involved, to help her former captain. Of course, Spock wouldn’t have endangered her any more than he’d have involved Kirk. At the end of part two, Uhura relays the message to Kirk and Spock that the transmissions from Talos had been received at Starfleet HQ and that everything is cool, Pike can go to Talos if he wants, etc. There’s a joy in her voice that the fan in me can attribute to her happiness that Pike will be OK. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/112 "2022-05-17T01:14:48Z")
FYI The first episode is on youtune. Just the (you tube inserted?) ad at the beginning, and a “hey, sign up to see more” at the end: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmumGjQanZs) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/113 "2022-05-17T04:04:55Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > FYI The first episode is on youtune. Just the (you tube inserted?) ad at the beginning, and a “hey, sign up to see more” at the end: “This video is not available.” Can’t imagine why not. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/114 "2022-05-17T10:38:44Z")
I’m not sure if you are being serious, but I am guessing the video is region restricted. It is not because it is a pirate video, Paramount Plus is the author. Melanie “Wynonna Earp” Scrofano is Captain Batel (Pike’s breakfast companion in the opening) – I didn’t recognize her at first but I do on second viewing. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/115 "2022-05-17T11:04:42Z")
Worked for me. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/116 "2022-05-19T19:50:15Z")
Another good episode. A classic: a mysterious affliction attacks the crew! It wasn’t perfect - even Spock was rolling his eyes when he himself explained what happened to the colonists - but I liked it a lot. I like how they’re focusing on one character each episode, while still giving the rest of the cast something to do. I also like how they went back to the theme of the Federation’s aversion to genetic engineering. I’ve always liked how it portrayed the usually enlightened Federation in shades of gray. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/117 "2022-05-19T20:01:10Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I don’t know why they have reimagined Uhura as a “linguist”. She is a Comms officer, a different specialty.⁢ Eh. That change was made as far back as the Enterprise series. where their Comms officer was also a linguist. And then Uhura was also a linguist in the reboot movies. I think they just decided that it made her seem like she did more than say “hailing frequencies open, Captain.” She often seemed a lot more like a secretary who handled the phones in TOS. I can accept that maybe, in the future, you have to be somewhat overqualified for that position. Even if it does mess with that scene in one of the movies where they had to use a Klingon/English dictionary. (Note, I’m not saying that someone on Comms is necessarily less qualified than a linguist. I’m suggesting maybe they needed to have both specialties.) ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/118 "2022-05-20T17:10:04Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I also like how they went back to the theme of the Federation’s aversion to genetic engineering. I’ve always liked how it portrayed the usually enlightened Federation in shades of gray. Quite. There was some nuance there. You had characters admitting to some deception and dishonesty in the face of that policy (in fairness, we saw a similar thing earlier in DS9 with Dr. Bashir). I found this a welcome thing, particularly after a few seasons of watching Discovery. As for episode 3, it hit the right notes for episodic sci fi. I give it a solid B. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/119 "2022-05-20T17:24:49Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > A classic: a mysterious affliction attacks the crew! At first I wondered if they were dipping back into the polywater well. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804/120 "2022-05-20T17:25:10Z")
I also enjoyed this episode. So far this series is looking promising. I haven’t yet seen what I would consider an excellent episode, but in the past, even the best Star Trek series could take quite a time to achieve a consistent level of high quality. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-trailer-and-now-begins-streaming-2022-05-09/960804.md?page=7)