# Star Trek -- the "I saw it" thread \*\*SPOILERS\*\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 7, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640 "2009-05-07T08:13:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/881 "2009-05-28T23:31:09Z")
Flying debris? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/882 "2009-05-29T00:00:24Z")
> [@rolandgunslinger](#): > > Someone please explain why Spock kneeled down before being transported to Vulcan. Probably for the same reason you should hold your breath first too. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/883 "2009-05-29T01:00:58Z")
> [@rolandgunslinger](#): > > Someone please explain why Spock kneeled down before being transported to Vulcan. He was being transported to an area with uneven terrain that was suffering earthquakes, so my guess is stability. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/884 "2009-05-29T17:48:43Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > He was being transported to an area with uneven terrain that was suffering earthquakes, so my guess is stability. I had thought he was moving into a confined face, but your explanation makes more sense and makes mine seems silly. Stop that. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/885 "2009-05-31T07:16:18Z")
Finally after 18 pages Anyhoo, I finally got around to seeing the movie and my thoughts are thus First , regarding Khan. Far as I know , star trek has not done a zombie movie yet, so this would kill two birds with one stone. Second , what was bones doing in the academy anyways. This bothered me , as he is already a doctor and not a line officer. I would have rathered that he was onboard the Enterprise as a resident, and then promoted when the main medicine man got killed. Good god man, he would have been directly commisioned into star fleet. Next , Kobyashi Maru scene It checked off the boxes, but it did not seem to me to be the way that kirk would have done it originally. Now it might be cool with the way he is being a rebel and all, thinking he will get away with it out of sheer arrogance, But I think I would have rather seen him walk out of the sim room, with everyone going how did he do that. The Narada looked like it was a shadow warship from Babylon 5, but fine no problems. I can see the Romulan empire being one of those governments where private ownership of vessels is non existant and every flagged Rom ship is a naval vessel, hence the ease that it went through taking out something like sixty ships. Question, was the Kelvin a Dreadnaught class ? The Connies were heavy cruisers by designation so I am wondering if thats where the extra 400 people came from. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/886 "2009-05-31T07:31:23Z")
Has anyone mentioned how retarded it was for Kirk to command the ship to shoot the daylights out of the badguy ship while it was getting torn apart by a black hole? What happened to ā€œget us to a safe distance and just watch the most relentlessly powerful phenomenon in the universe destroy the bad guyā€? Why would you bother shooting at something being swallowed by a black hole? And the crew all nodded approvingly at him for giving the order to get close enough to shoot! 18 pages, sorry if I missed someone else pointing this out. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/887 "2009-05-31T08:51:02Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Has anyone mentioned how retarded it was for Kirk to command the ship to shoot the daylights out of the badguy ship while it was getting torn apart by a black hole? What happened to ā€œget us to a safe distance and just watch the most relentlessly powerful phenomenon in the universe destroy the bad guyā€? Why would you bother shooting at something being swallowed by a black hole? And the crew all nodded approvingly at him for giving the order to get close enough to shoot! > > 18 pages, sorry if I missed someone else pointing this out. Fanwank: If the drives are active they might end up going through time again. Best to blow it the hell up and make sure that he gets eated up good. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/888 "2009-05-31T11:16:31Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > The Narada looked like it was a shadow warship from Babylon 5 Naah, itā€™s an Affront cruiser. _Kiss the Blade_, anyone? I saw it, I liked it. No major complaints. I liked Kirk, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/889 "2009-05-31T13:19:01Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > First , regarding Khan. Far as I know , star trek has not done a zombie movie yet, so this would kill two birds with one stone. The Borg pretty much are zombies. They infect you, someone has to shoot you in the head. > [@Mosier](#): > > Has anyone mentioned how retarded it was for Kirk to command the ship to shoot the daylights out of the badguy ship while it was getting torn apart by a black hole? Well, they just murdered 5 or 6 billion Vulcans. Who cares if the black hole would probably have gotten the job done. Even Spock wasnā€™t in the mood to be logical about it right then. I would have found it very cathartic to be the one to blow the fuck out of them first, too. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/890 "2009-05-31T13:29:08Z")
ā€¦by the way, regarding ā€˜Admiral Archerā€™s beagleā€™ ā€“ wasnā€™t _Enterprise_ about 100 years before the events in this film? ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/891 "2009-05-31T16:09:39Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > ā€¦by the way, regarding ā€˜Admiral Archerā€™s beagleā€™ ā€“ wasnā€™t _Enterprise_ about 100 years before the events in this film? Nepotism never gets old. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/892 "2009-05-31T16:11:26Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Fanwank: If the drives are active they might end up going through time again. Best to blow it the hell up and make sure that he gets eated up good. Yeah, shoot him five times while heā€™s down, just be sure. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/893 "2009-05-31T16:12:55Z")
Porthos survived his cheese addiction to breed more cheese addicted beagles, ultimately leading to the lactose-overdose demise of the breed. Or cross bred with tribbles to make Shiz-Tzuā€™s, whichever ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/894 "2009-05-31T16:13:05Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > First , regarding Khan. Far as I know , star trek has not done a zombie movie yet, so this would kill two birds with one stone. Why would Khan be a zombie? > [@Declan](#): > > Second , what was bones doing in the academy anyways. This bothered me , as he is already a doctor and not a line officer. I would have rathered that he was onboard the Enterprise as a resident, and then promoted when the main medicine man got killed. Good god man, he would have been directly commisioned into star fleet. Crusher commanded the E-D in a couple episodes of _Next Generation_. Starfleet apparently follows the Marine and Coast Guard school of thought on line officers. > [@Declan](#): > > Question, was the Kelvin a Dreadnaught class ? The Connies were heavy cruisers by designation so I am wondering if thats where the extra 400 people came from. The ships in this universe are bigger. This Enterprise is bigger than Picardā€™s second one, which was previously the largest 'fleet ship seen. > [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > ā€¦by the way, regarding ā€˜Admiral Archerā€™s beagleā€™ ā€“ wasnā€™t _Enterprise_ about 100 years before the events in this film? Archer would have been 146 at the time of this movie, but I donā€™t know when Athas (Aramis? dā€™Artagnan?)[URL=ā€œ[Charles de Batz de Castelmore d'Artagnan - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Artagnan)ā€] was beamed into space by Scotty, and, for reference, McCoy was 130, give or take, when he toured the E-D in the first episode of _Next Generation_. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/895 "2009-05-31T16:13:52Z")
Kirk blowed it up _real_ good! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/896 "2009-05-31T16:17:59Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > ā€¦by the way, regarding ā€˜Admiral Archerā€™s beagleā€™ ā€“ wasnā€™t _Enterprise_ about 100 years before the events in this film? People living more than a century isnā€™t out of line with the Star Trek reality. Although this would be the earliest someone 130+ was mentioned I believe. And Iā€™m sure it was Porthos V or so that ended up inside a star. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/897 "2009-05-31T16:48:29Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Crusher commanded the E-D in a couple episodes of _Next Generation_. Starfleet apparently follows the Marine and Coast Guard school of thought on line officers. McCoy attended the University of [Mississippi.](http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/character/1112499.html) ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/898 "2009-05-31T20:27:40Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > ā€¦by the way, regarding ā€˜Admiral Archerā€™s beagleā€™ ā€“ wasnā€™t _Enterprise_ about 100 years before the events in this film? My cat died earlier this year. I now have a different and more evil cat. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/899 "2009-05-31T20:48:50Z")
I think **Half Man** was questioning Archerā€™s longevity, not his unnamed beagleā€™s. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/900 "2009-05-31T20:50:04Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > I think **Half Man** was questioning Archerā€™s longevity, not his unnamed beagleā€™s. I realized that after I posted my felisnark. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640.md?page=46)