# Star Trek -- the "I saw it" thread \*\*SPOILERS\*\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 7, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640 "2009-05-07T08:13:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1081 "2009-06-15T17:51:34Z")
Sorry it took so long to post this … I saw it. I was adequately entertained. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1082 "2009-06-15T18:01:46Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > **COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC ALERT** > > Someone out there has already figured out how to knit up [Scotty’s hat](http://nicolelorenz.blogspot.com/2009/05/scottys-hat-pattern.html). > > I just thought I should share this late breaking dorkwad on two levels News. > Back to you, Jim. SWEET! Did anyone else think Spock Prime’s parka with the foldaway fur face shield was cool? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1083 "2009-06-15T18:21:42Z")
Considering the topic we were just discussing, that sounds like a pretty disturbing euphemism. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1084 "2009-06-15T23:02:03Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Dang it, [McCoy](http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/character/1112499.html)didn’t attend the academy. The University of Mississippi and Medical school. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Which would indicate that the timelines diverged before Kirk Sr. bought the farm. 🙂 Or maybe New!Kirk visited Mississippi and, a one-night stand later is the reason McCoy’s wife left him early, leading him into Starfleet to get away. 😛 > [@JRDelirious](#): > > [snip]Lame scene with Orion girl? Yes, very lame and bad makeup,[…] What I came here to post about. I think it’s sad that [this cosplayer](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/5540710/Spock-Days-a-Star-Trek-convention-in-Vulcan-Alberta.html) had better Orion makeup. Especially compared to the Klingons on the same site. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1085 "2009-06-16T01:03:26Z")
About the Uhura/Spock thing, I read an interesting review that included the following. I was of course too much “…wait, Uhura and _Spock_?” to pick up on this, but it’s a pretty good point. > [@](#): > > Uhura confronts Spock about her ship assignment (not to the Enterprise) and he comments that he recommended another ship so as to avoid the appearance of favoritism. That comment doesn’t make much sense at that stage in the film, because we do not know the nature of their relationship yet. Hence the subtlety. But later on we learn that there is indeed a personal, romantic relationship between Uhura and Spock, and she used it to leverage her way onto the Enterprise. The film also notes that Spock was one of her instructors, which raises the issue of personal relationships between teachers and students, which are almost always considered inappropriate. Again, Abrams is being subtle here by tucking it in at an earlier stage when we do not know the relationship exists, but when you step back and look at the bigger picture, there are a lot of things concerning about the relationship between Spock and Uhura, and which would raise eyebrows in classrooms and workplaces alike. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1086 "2009-06-16T03:13:48Z")
I actually argued that point with a colleague. I liked the relationship between them, but their entire relationship is completely inappropiate and unprofessional, and them kissing on the transporter pad with their captain right beside them was one of the scenes that took me entirely out of the film. I don’t care how emotionally compromised Spock is, I just can’t believe a professional military person (Vulcan) would do that. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1087 "2009-06-16T04:25:55Z")
I hear you. I guess I just took it as a reflection of how emotionally messed up he really was then. He needed some sugah, and she had plenty to share. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1088 "2009-06-16T17:48:55Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I hear you. I guess I just took it as a reflection of how emotionally messed up he really was then. He needed some sugah, and she had plenty to share. Plus I don’t think either of them really thought he’d be coming back. I agree that their being lovers is inappropriate becuase of the student-teacher thing, as I said upthread. But I doubt Abrams gives a fuck about things like that, any more than he cares about believable career paths for New!Kirk. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1089 "2009-06-16T18:23:39Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I guess I just took it as a reflection of how emotionally messed up he really was then. Spock does not become emotionally messed up unless shot full of spores or confronted by Mariette Hartley. ^:dubious:^ ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1090 "2009-06-16T18:26:01Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Spock does not become emotionally messed up unless shot full of spores or confronted by Mariette Hartley. > ^:dubious:^ 60s Mariette Hartey was a hottie. Wanting to couple with her is a sign of emotional HEALTH. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1091 "2009-06-16T19:09:28Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > 60s Mariette Hartey was a hottie. Wanting to couple with her is a sign of emotional HEALTH. It worries me when we agree on something. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1092 "2009-06-16T21:28:55Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It worries me when we agree on something. Dude, we agree on stuff all the time. Just to be nice, though, I hunted down this picture of [MH as Zarabeth](http://www.trekp.com/posters/gw234-zarabeth.jpg) for you. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1093 "2009-06-16T23:44:56Z")
Lets not rule out Leila Kalomi spores and all. [http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/lkalomi.jpg&imgrefurl=http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/lkalomi.htm&usg=\_\_WcpEPrggR\_svmsdmawcduF1GdE8=&h=376&w=500&sz=46&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=MNQzYRb0sbil-M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djill%2Bireland%2Btrek%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/lkalomi.jpg&imgrefurl=http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/lkalomi.htm&usg=__WcpEPrggR_svmsdmawcduF1GdE8=&h=376&w=500&sz=46&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=MNQzYRb0sbil-M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djill%2Bireland%2Btrek%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1094 "2009-06-16T23:54:30Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It worries me when we agree on something. It worries me when \*anyone \*agrees with you. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1095 "2009-06-16T23:56:43Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Just to be nice, though, I hunted down this picture of [MH as Zarabeth](http://www.trekp.com/posters/gw234-zarabeth.jpg) for you. She looks so _cold._ Hey, wait a minute. _All Our Yesterdays._ Spock in an ice cavern. _Star Trek 90210._ Spock in an ice cavern… ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1096 "2009-06-17T00:34:24Z")
What about [Spock and Droxine](http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/File:Droxine_and_Spock.jpg)? No spores or messed up time travel there. Just good old-fashioned flirting. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1097 "2009-06-17T01:36:55Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > What about [Spock and Droxine](http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/File:Droxine_and_Spock.jpg)? I believe her Father was wealthy. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1098 "2009-06-17T02:35:33Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I believe her Father was wealthy. That actually counted against her, in the end, as Spock didn’t like the way they treated the Troglytes. But initially he was interested in her as “a work of art” (Spock’s exact words!). Then they went on to discuss Vulcan mating practices. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1099 "2009-06-17T02:59:04Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Then they went on to discuss Vulcan mating practices. A mere discussion on biology. If you wish to speak of someone Spock was seriously interested in, consider the [Romulan Commander.](http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/romulan.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640/1100 "2009-06-17T04:02:13Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > A mere discussion on biology. > If you wish to speak of someone Spock was seriously interested in, consider the [Romulan Commander.](http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/romulan.htm) She’d be the first female commander shown in ST, ya? Someone go check Memory Alpha for me 🆒 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-i-saw-it-thread-spoilers/495640.md?page=56)