In the scene where the two Spock’s finally meet each other, I believe that was filmed in the old blimp hangars on (formerly) MCAS Tustin.
I’ve been in those things. Huge. Impressive, for being made out of wood.
I thought it was OK. Just OK. My main heart ache (I’m a Naval Officer) is the whole issue with a bunch of Academy guys running around in command of the Flagship of Star Fleet.
I’m trying to picture how a bunch of college at the end of their Senior year in college would do if you put them in charge of the USS Nimitz. And in about 2-3 days, have one of those guys, who’s not even an Ensign yet, become the Commanding Officer of that Flag ship!
Not to mention that the entire bridge crew is also made up of 21 year olds!
Why not just have them in charge of some non-descript smaller ship, like the ohhh Farragut, that might actually be commanded by a Lieutenant?
Though not canon, Farragut is generally considered to be one of Enterprise’s sister ships.
They seem to be misusing the term “flagship”.
Farragut That’s Admiral Farragut? I thought US Destroyers were named after enlisted men who lost their lives. Maybe that was in WWII when there were more possible names.
Arleigh Burke, the lead ship of the class of destroyer you linked above, is also an admiral.
The earlier Fletcher class detroyers (that saw service in WW2) were also named after various USN officer’s, as well. Farragut-class destroyer (1934) - Wikipedia
It doesn’t appear that rank (of the person to be honored) was the deciding issue.
Not really. Originally, it just meant the ship carrying the flag officer or commander of a fleet, but it’s also meant the best, largest, or most important product or vehicle for a while now.
This is the USS Farragut referred to: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Farragut_(23rd_century). The consensus has long been (up to this movie, at least) that she was a Constitution-class starship, like the Enterprise.
In case you hadn’t already seen this, J.J. Abrams answers ten questions on the movie: Memory Alpha:Ask J.J. Abrams/Answers | Memory Alpha | Fandom
I was thinking of The Sullivans.
I certainly like the phrase, “Destroyers are named for naval heroes and leaders.”
Yeah, but real power plants don’t get assembled in space and accelerated to near light speeds. The early power plant scenes, while showing a much bigger space than we are used to, at least looked like every inch was being used. The Gloop scene had tubes running about when there were no obstructions for them to avoid. Buffering could have been done in the tank better. I can’t see why the pipes wouldn’t be direct. As for cleanliness, if this were a water purification facility, I can see it. Maybe no one was around since this was a nonessential location, and everyone was busy elsewhere thanks the the number of casualties they took earlier.
I was referring to rea…, er, 20th century wessels.
Heh. Now, with this film’s release, we may see a U.S.S. Olson.
Well, we don’t really know how Star Trek FTL works; it there’s not a hug cost to schlepping around all that extra space, it’s sure easier to get to things if you have to fix things in a hurry. Say, while under phaser fire.
And the TOS engine room was… a big empty room with some consoles in it. Not exactly the cramped space I’d expect in a nautical ship, say.
Actually, the Gloop tubes running this way and that with no obstructions to avoid made them look more realistic. I’m constantly scratching my head at work wondering why someone routed a pipe zig-zag fifteen feet hither and yon, with nothing in the way and nothing having been demo’d away. The headscratcher with the Gloop tubes for me was: why are they transparent? They were filled with a clear fluid without turbulent flow – you couldn’t look inside to see how the flow was going; all you’d see is whether there was anything in there, or not. So why bother making it see-through? Stick in a flowmeter and monitor from the control room. Making pipes transparent for asthetics is something an interior decorator would do, not an engineer.
I thought that whole slapstick gag was one of the weakest parts of the movie.
Romulan staying angry for 25 years? Doesn’t make sense, but it’s important to the story.
The gag with Scotty being pumped through the pipes served no purpose whatsoever. Why not just have him bump his head? (Oh. Wait. Kirk already did that one.)
And his little gremlin buddy… wtf? Did they learn nuthin from Jar Jar?
I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it. It moved fast enough for me that the errors did not undermine the story.
I didn’t like the time travel part, but I considered that necessary to break from canon. I also didn’t care for the “going through a black hole” thing to emerge on the other side.
I didn’t connect well with this cast and I think it’s because their ‘bravado’ too often crossed the line to being a prick. Hopefully, they will correct this next time and nurture the friendship angle.
Dump Scotty’s tag along friend.
I didn’t like the water tubes carrying Scotty away. Comic relief without the comic.
The ultra fast ascension from cadet to Captain, etc., stinks, but nobody wants to see ensign Kirk. I suppose they could just skip forward (e.g., “Three years later…”).
I didn’t even think of the HUGE COINCIDENCE behind the Kirk and Spock meeting in the ice cave at the time I watched it.
I wonder what old Spock plans on doing in his new timeline.
In all, pretty good action packed fun and a much needed departure from the slow plodding TNG movies. I look forward to the next one.
What gets me, incidentally, is that DS9 did just that once–a group of ace cadets, while on a training mission, is forced to take command of a battleship. They eventully get killed due to their own arrogance.
While I’d be okay with 90210!Kirk, Zoe S. is too pretty to die.
Sure I do. I enjoyed Midshipman Hornblower, Lieutenant Hornblower, Ensign Flandry and the other Flandry stuff before he is a Captain. 
Well, one thing they learned was to keep his screen time, participation and importance all small enough to not bug me. He can stay as long as he wants as long as there are no zany antics.
That was my point, they are no where near ready for the biggest or best ship in the fleet (regardless of it’s name or nomenclature).
So just give the equivalent of a frigate or small destroyer. It might make it a bit easier to swallow.
I don’t remember that episode. Please elaborate.
From memory, since I can’t get Wikipedia to come up…
It was during the Dominion War arc. Jake and Nog were on a runabout headed to Ferenginar so that Nog (a cadet by age, but who had been given a battlefield commission to ensign after being forced to clock in what must have been hundreds of hours of combat service and dozens of battles) could try to persuade his people to throw their lot in with the Federation; Jake was along as a journalist.
Their ship is attacked by the Dominion and gets rescued by a Defiant-class ship named, I think the Valiant, which had been on a training mission with maybe 3 officers and 45 cadets when it was attacked months earlier. The Valiant’s captain and the other officers were all killed, and the captain, before dying, told the senior cadet to take command and get the ship home. Instead, because he and his fellows were all members of an officially-sanctioned fraternity called Red Squad–supposedly the best the Academy had to offer–the cadet commander proceeds to spend two months playing hit and run with the Dominion. He brevets Nog to Commander and puts him in charge of Engineering, and Nog, happy to be appreciated, totally buys into his bullshit. Jake does not, perhaps because the cadet captain, who must be at most a year older than he is, refers to him as “Ben Sisko’s boy” and basically acts as if there’s a 20-year-age difference between them.
The cadets come up with a plan to destroy a Dominion prototype vessel. Jake calls bullshit on it, saying that his father would never try such a thing with just one ship and asking the cadets why they think that, without even graduating the Academy, they can out-think Starfleet officers with decades of experience. For his trouble he gets thrown into the brig. The cadets try their plan against the Dominion dreadnought, and it doesn’t work, causing them, naturally, to wet themselves in panic, and the dreadnought proceeds to obliterate them.
Nog & Jake manage to escape in an escape pod, as does one cadet, who says that the play-acting cadet is a great captain based on all her months of experience. The last line of the episode is Jake’s who says that, “He may have been a great captain, but he was a bad man.” He is, of course, being nice, as he has to be thinking, “Actually, he was a monumental fuckup of a captain, a pissant of a man, and by far the worst human being I’ve ever been forced to be around.”
I’ve always thought of this as the anti-Wesley episode.