# Star Trek - The Motion Picture **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 28, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138 "2003-08-28T05:21:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/21 "2003-08-29T00:05:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monstre \* > \*\ ***Mr. Blue Sky** , I don’t think I’ve seen the special edition, but I recall that the original had plenty of meaningless padding. > > Specifically, they could have done without the long long looooooong padded scenes of the ship flying into the inner sanctum of the cloud-ship-thingy. That voyage just took too long… > > Probably would have worked better as a shorter episode (or even a two parter, if needed), but as a movie? Eh. Okay. Nothing special. > > But to Trek’s credit, it got much better in the next one. Khaaaaaaaannnnnnnn!!! \*\* The “special edition” padded out the V’Ger interior shots. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/22 "2003-08-29T00:42:34Z")
> [@](#): > > , Roddenbery seemed obsessed with playing down the military aspects of Star Fleet for some reason Although he was formerly a cop, Roddenberry was something of a liberal. He refused to even imply that Star Fleet was a military organization. The future was a social utopia and starships were for exploration, not conquest. He so disliked the script for STII:TWOK that Paramount basically told him to get lost and they handed it over to Harve Bennet who did nothing less than **completely save the franchise** with Wrath of Kahn. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/23 "2003-08-29T00:48:43Z")
[Rate Star Trek Movies!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=185837) [Should the Star Trek movie franchise call it quits?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202945) [Star Trek II - The Wrath Of Khan (SPOILERS!!)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=147099) [Star Trek Fans - Order the films, from best to worst!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144895) [Who here thinks “The Wrath of Khan” was the best Star Trek movie, and why?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136669) Just a few of the Trek Doper Movie Threads from the past, which, thanks to Crewman Daniels, is now the future past of the past’s future. (It makes sense, read it again). Not saying to end _this_ discussion. But, it might help explain Trekker’s feelings towards the films. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/24 "2003-08-29T00:56:23Z")
> [@](#): > > _Mr. Blue Sky_ > The “special edition” padded out the V’Ger interior shots. Ahhhh, so that’s the one I saw? Ack. Thanks for clarifying. I never saw in theaters originally, but I remember seeing it shown on TV from time to time. I guess I remember that scene from one of those times. Rock climbing, Joel… ---
**Author:** ![Alzarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@Alzarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alzarian)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/25 "2003-08-29T01:43:14Z")
I remember really liking this movie at the time I saw it in 1979. However, this version has been unseen for 24 years now, having been dumped in favor of a “special edition”. Any time I have seen the new version, I have gotten so incredibly bored, it has made me wonder if there couldn’t be a movement to get the original edition released, as I daresay it is probably a tighter movie with less padding… For the record, I thought II was a far more exciting movie, III was strong as well, and IV made for a nice completion to the genesis trilogy. V outweighed most of the others in the charm and chemistry departments, but lacked a solid story. VI was pretty cool, but a little sterile. VII tried to be daring by jumping forward 78 years into the future, but the new cast members didn’t have the history of the original crew, and were unable to generate much in the span of an hour and a half. VIII was an improvement, and the introduction of the Borg as new villians was kinda cool. IX was absolutely dreadful, and X was perhaps the worst of the bunch. Hoping that it didn’t kill the movie series, though having ten movies over 23 years is pretty impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Vlad\_Dracul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/50afbb/32.png) [@Vlad\_Dracul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Dracul)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/26 "2003-08-29T04:43:18Z")
According to Shatner’s “Star Trek Movie Memories”, he ran into Roddenberry in the mid-70’s and found him working on the script which would eventually become TMP. Shatner said Roddenberry’s original idea played up the possibility that the mysterious entity might be God. ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/27 "2003-08-29T07:11:55Z")
The first movie sucked, but the other five were okay. _The Journey Home_ is my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138/28 "2003-08-29T11:27:25Z")
You have to admit the music score is fantastic, the best part of the movie IMHO. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-the-motion-picture/198138.md?page=1)