# Star Trek:TNG "Sub Rosa" - Ripoff of Anne Rice or original as claimed? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 12, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tng-sub-rosa-ripoff-of-anne-rice-or-original-as-claimed/528779 "2010-02-12T21:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 11
**Author:** ![ZPhobiaZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/9de0a6/32.png) [@ZPhobiaZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPhobiaZ)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tng-sub-rosa-ripoff-of-anne-rice-or-original-as-claimed/528779/11 "2010-02-13T13:20:09Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > People who say this kinda thing like to yammer about “but but but they both take place on space stations! And they both have commanding officers who like baseball! And they’re both about _wars_! In space!” > > But aside from that, they’re pretty dissimilar. It’s like complaining that Band of Brothers is a ripoff of Hogna’s Heroes because they’re both about American soldiers fighting Zee Germans. Many people, when this topic comes up, will point out that DS9 aired earlier. I wonder, if they care enough to get their air dates right, why they don’t care enough to look just a tad deeper and learn that that JMS(the creator of Babylon 5) pitched the Bab 5 concept to paramount a few years before they came up with DS9. There are quite a few similarities between the show in setting, in tone, and in plot even so far as the captain of the station becoming a great spiritual leader. Considering paramount had b5 pitched to them before writing DS9, and the vast similarities, only a fool would be familiar with the history of the shows and doubt JMS’s ideas had some influence for which he never received credit. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tng-sub-rosa-ripoff-of-anne-rice-or-original-as-claimed/528779)._