Don’t forget Take Me Out to the Holosuite, in which the captain of an all-Vulcan crew challenges Sisko at his favorite game.
Thing is, because of the nature of the change, i.e. it’s due to time-travelers, there’s a built-in escape clause where another time-traveler can undo everything and put it “right”.
Not that I’m expecting this to happen, but I just didn’t see the point in trying to tie the two timelines together in this clumsy fashion. If you’re gonna reboot… then reboot, damnit.
I saw this movie for the third time the other night and I’m starting to like it. Shoot me now, please.
Was there ever any explanation why New Spock bodily threw Kirk off the ship where he landed not 200 yards from Spock Prime? That’s some crazy coincidence!
No… it’s destiny!
You’re welcome to start your own thread, but there’s no need to move this one.
The point of the comment about not being related was simply to explain that things in the 2010 movie timeline are not constrained by things in the TOS timeline, and vice versa.
There’s a scene in the ice cave where Spock Prime mentions something about “destiny” and New Kirk gives him a “you’re outta your cotton pickin mind” look. 
For what it’s worth, I was giving my TV the same look.
I think kayla’sdad started this in the first place.
Right - but look at it from Spock prime’s viewpoint - he didn’t mean it as ‘destiny’ as in ‘predetermined’ - but as in ‘destiny, the way things worked before says you really ought to do this, and from my perspecitve, things will be fantastic if you do’
Spock Prime, having been friends with Kirk Prime and knowing all the things they can accomplish together - really wants that part of the new timeline to have a chance.
It is a unique perspective.
Because it’s an objective requirement that this movie must be hated? Sheesh. It’s a fun movie and I think the magnitude of flak it gets is undeserved.
I’m starting to get that. I wondered if someone were to ask me what it’s about, if I could come up with a good answer. The plot very complex. It’s not as easy to explain as “Superman terrorist gets his hands on a terrible weapon but first wants to exact personal revenge.” It’s more like trying to explian the plot of Office Space.
Maybe, but Spock is super duper smart. He should pick his words with more care than Kirk does.
He says it to Kirk Prime, as well, in The Wrath of Khan:
It appears Spock uses the word “destiny” to mean “role best suited for”. I wonder why…
In several instances, we see Vulcans holding on to ceremonies and traditions that smack of spirituality, not logic.
They shoulda just called it Ultimate Star Trek and cast Samuel L. Jackson as Kirk.
Snakes on a Starship?
Heh. "I have had enough of this motherfuckin’ Romulan tryin’ to blow up my motherfuckin’ ship!"
I liked the reboot, all in all, although I hated (a) the Enterprise being assembled on the Earth’s surface, and (b) Kirk rising from midshipman to captain in the span of about a week.
Well, tribbles…
Some things I didn’t get in the reboot, and perhaps this is a good place to ask:
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How did the Narada get right above Earth? No ships or defenses to stop him (orbital stations, ships, even SAMs)? I mean, Nero’s right above Starfleet itself in San Francisco, and Earth just watched until the Enterprise arrived?
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How did Nero destroy all those Federation starships over Vulcan so quickly? It shot dozens of missiles at the Kelvin, which still wasn’t enough to prevent it from ramming. Yet it could destroy those dozen starships in the few seconds (parking-brake delay) before the Enterprise arrived?
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How did Kirk get promoted to command his own ship? Was it a reward for being in temporary command of the Enterprise while Earth was saved? All he did was rescue Pike. Spock flew the Jellyfish, destroyed the drill, and caused the red matter to destroy the Narada. Chekov was in command with the fancy flying and shooting on the Enterprise. Seems like a huge reward for doing such a small part.
Not to mention that a drop of red matter destroyed the entire solar system that Roumlus was in, but a beach ball sized amount was just enleashed possibly near Saturn, but there’s no concern.
Also, they left the remains of Vulcan at warp whatever speed for several minutes, but when Kirk was ejected to the ice planet, it was close enough to see details of the surface of Vulcan.
yeah - like “protecting their culture” == a dozen folks standing in a circle holding hands in a cave.
Romulas’ sun went supernova - that is what destroyed Romulas and the system- Spock was trying to ‘pull back’ the effects of the supernova with the red-matter but was too late.
They were pretty clearly a good distance away from our system when they destroyed the Narata with teh beach ball - but you are correct that they do not do a good job of stating just how far out that was.
(couldn’t have been too far - since Enterprise no longer had a warp core to get back home quickly)