# Star Trek, TOS remastered. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 28, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333 "2010-09-28T08:22:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/1 "2010-09-28T08:22:57Z")
Is out on blue ray. Is there any point to this? I have seen some of the remastered scenes in HD, and quite frankly, the updated fx stink on ice. Looks like bad student work, for the most part. I wonder how much they spent. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/2 "2010-09-28T14:11:02Z")
It’s fantastic. And the Blu-Ray discs offer you the option to switch between the original and the updated effects, if you really think they suck. I think they’re a vast improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/3 "2010-09-28T14:19:11Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > It’s fantastic. And the Blu-Ray discs offer you the option to switch between the original and the updated effects, if you really think they suck. I think they’re a vast improvement. The ability to turn off the updated effects is worth the price of admission, IMHO! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/4 "2010-09-28T14:20:52Z")
Who shoots first? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/5 "2010-09-28T15:23:43Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Who shoots first? 😃 Kang. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/6 "2010-09-28T15:46:15Z")
Well, HD might answer the question about some of those ultra sheer dresses. I always thought some of them were showing a lot more than tv resolution could deliver. They literally taped some of those gowns onto the ladys boobs. That was the only way to keep it from falling open on camera. Even then I’ve read about bloopers where a boob would fall out of the dress and they’d have to reshoot. HD could make this episode worth watching again. [![](http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_images/bp-OS-Andrea_Android_Sherry_Jackson.jpg) ](http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_images/bp-OS-Andrea_Android_Sherry_Jackson.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/7 "2010-09-28T15:50:58Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > > [@runner pat](#): > > > > Who shoots first? 😃 > > Kang. Where was Kodos when Kang was shooting? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/8 "2010-09-28T16:22:01Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > > [@mlees](#): > > > > Kang. > > Where was Kodos when Kang was shooting? 😃 Executing something, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/9 "2010-09-28T21:01:28Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > > [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > > > Where was Kodos when Kang was shooting? 😃 > > Executing something, I’m sure. And twirling, always twirling. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/10 "2010-09-28T21:14:18Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > > [@mlees](#): > > > > Executing something, I’m sure. > > And twirling, always twirling. And holding hands, because if you can think of a simpler way to exchange protein strings, I’d like to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/11 "2010-09-29T09:23:16Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > HD could make this episode worth watching again. > [beertripper.com](http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_images/bp-OS-Andrea_Android_Sherry_Jackson.jpg) Thank you for that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/12 "2010-09-29T15:14:13Z")
Are there any sample clips out there of some remastered shots? I wanna see how this looks for myself before I’d consider renting/buying it. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/13 "2010-09-29T15:50:20Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Are there any sample clips out there of some remastered shots? I wanna see how this looks for myself before I’d consider renting/buying it. Aint It Cool News did some side by side comparison stills when the remastered episodes were airing on television.. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/14 "2010-09-29T15:56:02Z")
Don’t know about where you live, but in the Chicago area TV station WCIU broadcasts the remastered shows every weekday between 7 and 8 pm, channel 26-2. Some of it is just cleaning the dust off 40+ year old prints and doing some color-correction to reverse fading caused by time. There are a few re-do effects shots, how much varies from episode to episode. The most notable difference to me is that instead of planets being fuzzy muddles of color on the remastered versions you can see things like continents, oceans, mountains, etc. They look a lot more like what a picture taken from orbit would look like than the “fuzzy” circles of the old series - possibly because we didn’t have much in the way of space photography in 1966 but it’s routine now. Some other effects shots are either not redone at all, or so subtle even a devout fan is unlikely to spot the difference. In one or two cases a few seconds of CGI are added. So far, I haven’t seen anything that completely turned me off. In fact, in many instances I approve, usually because it eliminates things like matt lines in effects shots. The only one that really jumped out at me was in “Operation: Annilate” where, instead of mere talking about deploying satellites to destroy the alien parasites there is a CGI shot of the satellites deploying in space. I didn’t find it to be a problem, even though I knew it hadn’t been in the original version of that episode. There are probably websites out there showing a side by side comparisons of original scenes with the remastered ones. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/15 "2010-09-29T16:39:26Z")
Definitely worth seeing for any ST fan. They did an especially amazing job on “The Doomsday Machine.” Scroll down here to see comparison shots: [The Doomsday Machine (episode) | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine). Even this doesn’t do the remastered episode justice - the sfx were much, much better, and really enhanced the entire impact of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/16 "2010-09-29T17:18:12Z")
I have the three season remastered DVD sets. Some episodes are “plot heavy”, and the special effects remastering is minimal, content wise. Other episodes, like the “Doomsday Machine” and “Balance of Terror” are FX heavy, so the remastering is more obvious. In my opinion, as a life long Star Trek fan, the remastered FX material is a treat. I don’t know if HD (vs DVD) set is even better. I don’t own an HD capable TV. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/17 "2010-09-29T17:41:02Z")
I was really against this on principle but it was cool to see the Gorn blink. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/18 "2010-09-29T20:12:59Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > …Other episodes, like the “Doomsday Machine” and “Balance of Terror” are FX heavy, so the remastering is more obvious… True. And I should add that I was very disappointed with what they did with “The Ultimate Computer” (M-5 goes nuts during Starfleet wargames). That could’ve been a kickass episode, sfx-wise, and they didn’t do nearly what they might have, given the premise. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/19 "2010-09-29T20:17:18Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@mlees](#): > > > > …Other episodes, like the “Doomsday Machine” and “Balance of Terror” are FX heavy, so the remastering is more obvious… > > True. And I should add that I was very disappointed with what they did with “The Ultimate Computer” (M-5 goes nuts during Starfleet wargames). That could’ve been a kickass episode, sfx-wise, and they didn’t do nearly what they might have, given the premise. Ok, I’ll have a look (I haven’t watched the entire disk set yet, just a couple of my favorites). I have no doubt you are right. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/20 "2010-09-30T04:43:17Z")
Well, I watched “Arena” and the Enterprise flyby shots had atrocious texturing and poor to medium modeling. Looked very fake. As a CGI artist, I could easily do better, and have. The folks who do the FX on the New Voyages do. Of course they are using Lighwave (as I do), which is always an advantage. Anyone know what software was used for the Trek updates? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333.md?page=2)