# Star Trek, TOS remastered.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 28, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333 "2010-09-28T08:22:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/41 "2010-10-06T02:54:41Z")

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> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#):
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> The actor playing adult Wesley should be erased from the film

I think Wesley should be erased from them all and someone less annoying like Jar Jar Binks inserted.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/42 "2010-10-06T05:33:34Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I think Wesley should be erased from them all and someone less annoying like Jar Jar Binks inserted.

You can thank **muldoonthief** for the idea.

> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> > [@BMalion](#):
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> > Could they replace Wesley?
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> Yes, but they’ll be replacing him with Jar Jar Binks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/43 "2010-10-06T13:06:10Z")

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[quote=“cochrane, post:42, topic:555333”]

You can thank **muldoonthief** for the idea.

> [@muldoonthief](#):
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Yes, and a grand idea it is. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/44 "2010-10-06T23:57:24Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> > [@FordTaurusSHO94](#):
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> > I’m thinking everything was edited on tape too. They have it all on film, but it’s all out of order. For the TOS episdoes, it sounds like they took finished episodes and covered over the old the effects. For TNG, they have to find all of the film, put it in order, then completely redo the special effects for all seven seasons. They’ve done it before though, Generations used a scene from the series and Enterprise used HD footage from a TNG episode.
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> That’s correct. TOS was shot and edited on film old-skool style, but TNG was all edited on video. They’d have to reassemble every episode from the original 35mm film shoots, _then_ redo all the effects, most of which were created on video (so there’s no film to start with on the effects shots.) A Herculean effort, but it would be totally, totally rad. Especially if they did DS9 as well.

Ah, thanks guys, that makes total sense.

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**Author:** ![countzero101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4da419/32.png) [@countzero101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/countzero101)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/45 "2012-01-22T01:12:54Z")

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So, does this mean they re-mastered both the “updated special FX” episodes AND the original unaltered versions? Or did they skip the re-mastering on the unaltered series? In other words; I want to watch the episodes in order, as they originally aired in the 60’s, re-mastered. Can I easily do this? Are the episodes listed on the discs? Thanks so much for your reply. I’ve been online for about 3 hours looking for the answers.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/46 "2012-01-22T01:44:01Z")

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[Memory Alpha wiki](http://memory-alpha.org/): for all your Trek needs.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/47 "2012-01-22T02:08:12Z")

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> [@thirdname](#):
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> I rented a few eps on DVD, and my biggest complaint was that on my surround-sound system I could hear the plywood set floors creaking as the actors walked. I don’t think duranium is supposed to make sounds like that.

“High definition” anything is overrated. Watched Olympic figure skating on an early HD TV and I could see razor stubble Down There. And the first ballet I watched IRL had the music turned down so far I could hear the thumps when the ballerinas landed.

But anything that increased the resolution of Sherry Jackson can’t be all bad, though I was an Angela Cartwright fan back in the day. Y’see, we are about the same age…

Oh, we were talking about _Star Trek_ and not _Make Room for Daddy_? In that case, cleaning up the prints and redoing the effects worked surprisingly well.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/48 "2012-01-22T02:11:54Z")

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> [@countzero101](#):
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> In other words; I want to watch the episodes in order, as they originally aired in the 60’s, re-mastered.

And not in the order they were filmed? Do you really not want to watch the enlarging of Shatner’s potbelly as each season went on?

ETA: Otherwise, what is the point of being a Trekkie?

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/49 "2012-01-22T02:31:12Z")

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I just wanted to say that anyone who has a problem with the redone Trek episodes really is a nut 😉 There were a few instances where they went a bit overboard, but for the most part it felt like repairing mistakes. Sometimes the effects were baffling as they did not match what characters were describing even, so to fix that was an improvement. I could not find one instance where it actually changed the plot or characterization(Han shot first!) and for the record I HATE every CGI insert done into Star Wars.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/50 "2012-01-22T04:27:26Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> Sometimes the effects were baffling as they did not match what characters were describing even, so to fix that was an improvement..

Cite!

Cite!

🙂

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/51 "2012-01-22T13:18:47Z")

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> [@countzero101](#):
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> So, does this mean they re-mastered both the “updated special FX” episodes AND the original unaltered versions? Or did they skip the re-mastering on the unaltered series? In other words; I want to watch the episodes in order, as they originally aired in the 60’s, re-mastered. Can I easily do this? Are the episodes listed on the discs? Thanks so much for your reply. I’ve been online for about 3 hours looking for the answers.

Netflix has this. I’ve been watching them with my 11 year old for a few months now to bring her up to speed. We’ve been watching them in order originally shown. She’s getting a real kick out of them. Though she does quote Galaxy Quest fairly often.

“I see you got your SHIRT off!”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-remastered/555333/52 "2012-01-22T14:48:28Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Though she does quote Galaxy Quest fairly often.
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> “I see you got your SHIRT off!”

Cool.

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