# Star Trek TOS: "The Deadly Years" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604 "2017-01-20T04:04:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/1 "2017-01-20T04:04:48Z")
I just realized today that Kirk, on the stand, is doing a “Captain Queeg” (though much much shorter) Which leads to another question: Kirk just got old…is he at heart a raving paranoic??? And insanely delusional. “Lookatme!! Look. At. Me!..am I…am i old? I admit, I have a little grey” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/2 "2017-01-20T04:07:35Z")
He tried to be a good captain, but they fought him at every turn! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/3 "2017-01-20T04:19:46Z")
It might have been getting old all of a sudden. If any 35 year old woke up in the morning as an 80-year-old, they could be excused for reacting badly. Having those additional 45 years to grow old gradually is extremely helpful. (Even if it is much the same as “boiling a frog.”) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/4 "2017-01-20T04:27:40Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > It might have been getting old all of a sudden. If any 35 year old woke up in the morning as an 80-year-old, they could be excused for reacting badly. Having those additional 45 years to grow old gradually is extremely helpful. Especially when there’s a hot English chick with big boobs on board. :o ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/5 "2017-01-20T04:27:50Z")
The best ST “Queeg” has to be Matt Decker. William Windom even did an homage to Bogart playing with the ball bearings by shuffling the computer discs. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3sFw5Mt70vY/hqdefault.jpg "STAR TREK : AWESOME KIRK MOMENTS ''NOT WITH MY SHIP YOU DONT!''") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sFw5Mt70vY) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/6 "2017-01-20T04:31:31Z")
[quote=“E-DUB, post:5, topic:777604”] The best ST “Queeg” has to be Matt Decker. William Windom even did an homage to Bogart playing with the ball bearings by shuffling the computer discs. [/QUOTE] I thought he was supposed to be Captain Ahab? 😕 But yeah, the shtick with the computer disks was cool! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/7 "2017-01-20T04:32:43Z")
Watching it now, took me forever to find it cause I thought for sure it was season three. The plot is VERY season threeish. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/8 "2017-01-20T04:47:15Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > It might have been getting old all of a sudden. If any 35 year old woke up in the morning as an 80-year-old, they could be excused for reacting badly. Having those additional 45 years to grow old gradually is extremely helpful. > > (Even if it is much the same as “boiling a frog.”) Also (IIRC), it was mentioned that their mental faculties were going downhill even faster than their physical health. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/9 "2017-01-20T04:49:31Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Especially when there’s a hot English chick with big boobs on board. :o Feminism has come a long way when a woman with a more pronounced [mustache](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e8/2f/7e/e82f7e897bc9f3da196d1e76afe43c69.jpg) \* than Kirk doesn’t feel pressured to shave it or prevent her from hitting on Kirk. \*Much more visible in the HD Netflix Star Trek eps. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/10 "2017-01-20T13:51:29Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Feminism has come a long way when a woman with a more pronounced [mustache](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e8/2f/7e/e82f7e897bc9f3da196d1e76afe43c69.jpg) \* than Kirk doesn’t feel pressured to shave it or prevent her from hitting on Kirk. > > \*Much more visible in the HD Netflix Star Trek eps. Naaah, those are just shadows… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/11 "2017-01-20T16:26:25Z")
[quote=“E-DUB, post:5, topic:777604”] The best ST “Queeg” has to be Matt Decker. William Windom even did an homage to Bogart playing with the ball bearings by shuffling the computer discs. [/QUOTE] Thanks, E-DUB. I’ve seen that episode many times, but never caught the Caine reference. 'Kay. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/12 "2017-01-20T16:41:26Z")
[quote=“E-DUB, post:5, topic:777604”] The best ST “Queeg” has to be Matt Decker. William Windom even did an homage to Bogart playing with the ball bearings by shuffling the computer discs. [/QUOTE] My daughter and I watched [For the Love of Spock](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4572820/?ref_=nv_sr_8) last night, and they showed the Windom clip. She asked who that was, and I mentioned his name, and said he was a helluvan actor. I also remember him in [My World and Welcome to It.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063934/?ref_=nv_sr_2) ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/13 "2017-01-20T17:54:58Z")
Of course in TNG’s “The Drumhead”, Picard pulls a ‘reverse Queeg’ and lets the prosecutor hang herself. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/14 "2017-01-20T20:33:05Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > … Picard pulls a ‘reverse Queeg’ and lets the prosecutor hang herself. That sounds _filthy!_ ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/15 "2017-01-21T02:01:58Z")
[quote=“E-DUB, post:5, topic:777604”] The best ST “Queeg” has to be Matt Decker. William Windom even did an homage to Bogart playing with the ball bearings by shuffling the computer discs. [/QUOTE] “When you need someone to break down, hire Willie the Weeper” as Windom summarized his career. But he did figure out how to destroy the doomsday machine although it was more of a deliberate suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/16 "2017-01-21T05:39:21Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > My daughter and I watched [For the Love of Spock](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4572820/?ref_=nv_sr_8) last night, and they showed the Windom clip. She asked who that was, and I mentioned his name, and said he was a helluvan actor. I also remember him in [My World and Welcome to It.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063934/?ref_=nv_sr_2) Windom was good in the made for TV movie [_Assault On the Wayne_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_on_the_Wayne), which is like Star Trek light. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/17 "2017-01-21T16:28:29Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > “When you need someone to break down, hire Willie the Weeper” as Windom summarized his career. But he did figure out how to destroy the doomsday machine although it was more of a deliberate suicide. Yeah, but do you know how much shuttlecraft go for? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/18 "2017-01-21T16:40:41Z")
We seem to have side-stepped into another episode, but I always thought the closing line to “Doomsday Machine” was terribly inadequate. “I found one quite sufficient”? Bah. “We only have twelve (now 11) starships,” would have been better. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/19 "2017-01-21T17:54:14Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > We seem to have side-stepped into another episode, but I always thought the closing line to “Doomsday Machine” was terribly inadequate. “I found one quite sufficient”? Bah. “We only have twelve (now 11) starships,” would have been better. Deadly Years is worse. _KIRK: Well, gentlemen, all and all, an experience we’ll remember in our old age. Which won’t be for some while, I hope. Take over, Mister Sulu. Steady as she goes. SULU: Steady as she goes, Captain. KIRK: I thought I said that._ Yuk. Yuk. “Oh, and those people who died…jettison their bodies. I’m going to see if Dr. Hottie heres offer to bone is still good.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604/20 "2017-01-21T18:16:14Z")
The last line in _The City On the Edge of Forever_ makes up for bad ones. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-tos-the-deadly-years/777604.md?page=2)