# Star Trek V:  So what was that "God" like entity?

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**Created:** [April 8, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-v-so-what-was-that-god-like-entity/167406 "2003-04-08T21:39:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-v-so-what-was-that-god-like-entity/167406/21 "2003-04-09T16:49:26Z")

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> _Originally posted as Cal Meacham’s sig_  
> “This wasn’t a war for territory, or for gain, or to advance an ideology. It was a war to protect our winter food supply and our families from the attacks by fifteen dwarves, one wizard, and a hobbit. And it made me feel good to have joined this band.”
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> **—Dances with Wargs**

**Cal** , I love your sig. But shouldn’t it be thirteen dwarves?[/end hijack]

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-v-so-what-was-that-god-like-entity/167406/22 "2003-04-09T16:50:25Z")

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As Stephen King relates the story (in a footnote in **Danse Macabre** ), Harlan Ellison was pitching an idea for a Star Trek movie to a bunch of Paramount executives. Nothing was taking, so he pulled out a hoary idea that Roddenberry himself had done to death, about the Enterprise travelling out past practically unconquerable barriers to the Edge of the Universe, and when they get to the other side, they find…

…God!

“But it’s not BIG enough!” lamented an executive.

I don’t know if the story’s true, but it was there in Danse Macabre _long_ before they had made **Star Trek II**. Shatner , amazingly, seems to have ripped off what was basically a joke. Or else independently discovered Ellison’s joke. And played it for real.

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-v-so-what-was-that-god-like-entity/167406/23 "2003-04-09T17:13:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Weirddave \*  
> \*\*In the Q-Continium trilogy ( ST: TNG #48-50)Greg Cox postulates that he was a powerful being who invented monotheisim and forced primitave societies to worshop him. \*\*

Thankfully, it’s been ages since I’ve seen it … but, in the movie itself, is the being supposed to have started monotheism on Earth, or did he have nothing to do with it, and he’s just playing off the vague similarities in order to gain his freedom?

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-v-so-what-was-that-god-like-entity/167406/24 "2003-04-09T17:46:24Z")

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Actually, the conflict that resulted in the being being imprisioned took place millenia before man evolved ( IIRC, one bit of fallout from the fighting was that a meteor hit Earth and caused the extinction of the dinosaurs )

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-v-so-what-was-that-god-like-entity/167406/25 "2003-04-09T17:58:38Z")

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Ah, but the Dinosaurs weren’t wiped out! They evolved into the uber lizards from ST:Voy’s _Distant Origins_.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-v-so-what-was-that-god-like-entity/167406/26 "2003-04-09T19:51:29Z")

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Was Star Trek V ever on MST3k? If it wasn’t it should have been. When I watched it the first time I though I would get an explanation for the “God” character but never did. I should have expected as much from a movie that was worse than… hmm, I can’t think of anything worse.

The “god” was probably an alien. Everything religious in Star Trek is considered barbarian, or comically inane.

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