Another problem with Voyager (IMO) was the lack of sexual tension on the show. The entire series felt like it was created a for child audience who wouldn’t have understand that stranding a bunch of humans and humanoid lifeforms would have created a deal of stress and the desire to “relieve” that stress.Even Tuvok Pon’far period was treated in what seems to now be a quaint manner.
With DS9’s writers, Voyager would have been much better as it would have been much more adult.
One of my favorite scenes is Tuvok discussing pan-far with a Vulcan experiencing it.
They are standing side by side, but looking directly out a port rather than face each other while discussing such a subject.
That’s because they are originally from Minnesota. You betchya.
Ah.
Thanks!
Season 6 in general is disappointing after the spectacular 4th and 5th seasons.
What do you mean “studio-mandated blandness”? :dubious:
As Nonsuch mentioned earlier in the thread, Berman had the actors deliberately underplay their parts - because, y’know, that was so characteristic of previous Trek series, which featured such paragons of subtlety as William Shatner, Jonathan Frakes, and Avery Brooks. :rolleyes:
“Voyager,” unfortunately, took the brunt of this shift in “studio style,” which mostly happened after Roddenberry passed away. DS9 managed to skirt its away around the restriction because it was the red-headed stepchild of the Trek franchise, and Berman’s attention was mostly consumed with either TNG or Voyager during its run. Not coincidentally, DS9 also features some of the best acting, and certainly the most vibrant cast, of any of the Trek series.
One objection I do have about Voyager is be becoming The Seven Of Nine Show in the final season.
I think Voyager and Enterprise are helped by the separation of time between now and regular appearing Trek. I lambasted Enterprise at the time, and now when I go back and watch episodes, I find a lot to enjoy. Mostly, I like how all the little things we take for granted in TOS-TNG Trek aren’t common-place in Enterprise.
It’s called Battlestar Galactica.
Yeah, God did it.
:rolleyes:
BSG isn’t really a fair comparison, because it came after Voyager and knew exactly what had gone wrong with that show. A better comparison is Farscape, which ran concurrently to Voyager, and had pretty much an identical premise.
I know not everyone likes Farscape, but you cannot deny it took a hell of a lot more risks than Voyager
But the TrekVerse is lousy with gods. Hell, a recurring element of Voyager was Janeway’s stupidly NOT asking the local god for a ride home.
Why would God need a starship?
Why do you say such things, when you know I will kill you for it?
The authors of Voyager had time travel and an idea to end the series, they did not need deus ex machina.
:rolleyes:
Somehow this seems appropriate. Work safety iffy.
Yes, it seems odd that she wouldn’t have asked any of the Q’s that she encountered for little extra “Oomph” on the voyage home. Or looked for another Caretaker. Or stopped for a while and concentrated on making the Borg transwarp technology work somehow.
Coupled with the Maquis crew members tolerating her rather shortsighted decision to strand them in the Delta Quadrant (after all, they weren’t in Star Fleet) and not mutinying against her command, the series never explains why anybody would have been “satisfied” with the spending the remainder of their lives on board a vessel slowly traveling home.
Didn’t Q move them quite a bit towards home in gratitude for something or other?
Not that I recall, but they did get several boosts along the way, each on the order of 10,000 light-years.
I think Q giving them a boost of less than the entire journey would have been just jerkish. Obviously he COULD have sent them home at any time.