# Star Trek XI Teaser Trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 19, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124 "2008-01-19T05:19:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/1 "2008-01-19T05:19:34Z")
[It looks legit.](http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_lofgo9TqI) However, I cannot fathom why they’re showing the Enterprise under construction. [Here’s a large photo of the ship being built.](http://www.wordforge.net/imagehosting/81478fc27d2e648.gif) Can someone explain to me how this is supposed to work? Pike’s the captain of the Enterpr-- oh, wait, I _just_ think I figured it all out. They’re going to do it like _K-19 the Widowmaker_ aren’t they? Pike’s supposed to be in charge of the Enterprise after she’s finished, but because he’s too conservative, they put the brash young James T. Kirk in charge and he takes the Enterprise out and puts her through her paces, while fighting the Romulans. Color me unoptimistic. They shoulda hired the guys who did [Star Wreck.](http://www.starwreck.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/2 "2008-01-19T05:24:05Z")
Meh, they’re just going to fuck the continuity with all the gentleness and tenderness one gives a two-dollar whore. Spock? He’s now from the planet Mintax. The old name was passé. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/3 "2008-01-19T05:52:58Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] oh, wait, I _just_ think I figured it all out. [/QUOTE] Hold on a second there. You make several assumptions, make up your own plot, and dismiss the movie over it? Can you at least wait until the proper trailer is officially released, and not base your assumptions on a bootleg of the teaser? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/4 "2008-01-19T06:04:31Z")
[QUOTE=GuanoLad] Hold on a second there. You make several assumptions, make up your own plot, and dismiss the movie over it? Can you at least wait until the proper trailer is officially released, and not base your assumptions on a bootleg of the teaser? [/QUOTE] 'Kay, so you explain to me why we’re seeing the Enterprise being put together. Does young cadet Kirk look out at her being built and say, “Someday, I’m going to command that ship!” before he trots off to classes at Star Fleet Academy? Does Pike screw the pooch with the Enterprise, causing it to be severely damaged and thus is actually being repaired before being sent out with Kirk in charge? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/5 "2008-01-19T06:22:50Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] 'Kay, so you explain to me why we’re seeing the Enterprise being put together. Does young cadet Kirk look out at her being built and say, “Someday, I’m going to command that ship!” before he trots off to classes at Star Fleet Academy? Does Pike screw the pooch with the Enterprise, causing it to be severely damaged and thus is actually being repaired before being sent out with Kirk in charge? [/QUOTE] Or do they just show the 1701 being built at the beginning and then move on with the story. The point is you don’t know what context that clip is in. You may be right or wrong, you have no way of knowing yet. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/6 "2008-01-19T06:37:31Z")
[QUOTE=yojimbo] Or do they just show the 1701 being built at the beginning and then move on with the story. [/QUOTE] Wanna bet? Cause I just can’t see them using that as a “throwaway” scene for the trailer/beginning of the film. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/7 "2008-01-19T07:22:59Z")
You may be right. But it’s just as possible, more likely even, that you are wrong. There are potentially many reasons why the Enterprise is being built. Maybe it isn’t in the movie at all, and its an image being used as a metaphor for a reconstruction of the Star Trek mythos. Maybe it’s being built for Captain Pike, and Kirk won’t be flying it in the movie at all. Maybe it’s just repairs after Pike’s most recent mission. The point is it’s too early, and a completely baseless supposition, to cast judgement on the entire movie from this single clip. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/8 "2008-01-19T07:34:31Z")
[QUOTE=GuanoLad] The point is it’s too early, and a completely baseless supposition, to cast judgement on the entire movie from this single clip. [/QUOTE] I suppose next you’ll say that one would have to watch the enitre film before they could comment on it’s quality. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/9 "2008-01-19T08:15:06Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] I suppose next you’ll say that one would have to watch the enitre film before they could comment on it’s quality. :dubious: [/QUOTE] Well, _some_ of the film would be good. Say, an hour or so. Something more than a glorified animated poster, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/10 "2008-01-19T08:26:46Z")
[QUOTE=GuanoLad] Well, _some_ of the film would be good. Say, an hour or so. Something more than a glorified animated poster, at least. [/QUOTE] I dunno about you, but it didn’t take me an hour to determine that _Battlefield Earth_ was a festering load of crap. Nor do we _only_ have a “glorified animated poster” as our only guide. We know who’s writing it, directing it, starring in it, and the names of the characters. We also [have some idea of the plot.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=450504) We can begin to put all of these things together to form a bit of a picture. ---
**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/11 "2008-01-19T09:36:05Z")
We may be reading too much into the trailer. The message could be: The ENTERPRISE is under construction to be unveiled later. This film is under construction to be unveiled later. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/12 "2008-01-19T16:22:38Z")
Can one of you guys answer a question that’s been bugging me for years? I’m not what you’d call a die-hard ST fan, but I’ve seen most of the original series, much of TNG and a few episodes of the other three shows. I may not be able to rattle off ship ID numbers like a true fan, but I can tell a Vulcan from a Klingon. I feel pretty comfortable with Trek lore, at least the parts of it that don’t involve wormholes. So here’s my question: who the hell is this Captain Pike? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/13 "2008-01-19T16:26:18Z")
Who’s Winona Ryder going to be playing - Amanda, Spock’s mom? ---
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/14 "2008-01-19T16:28:48Z")
Captain Pike was the Captain of the Enterprise in the pilot of the original series. He “comes back” later as an invalid in a terrible robot suit car thingy, that can only say “yes” and “no”. You have an intelligent computer that runs a ship, but he can only say yes and no. [Captain Pike after](http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/tos-016-the-badly-injured-pike/320x240.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/15 "2008-01-19T16:38:43Z")
Pike > **[The Menagerie (Star Trek: The Original Series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Menagerie_(TOS_episode))** > > The Menagerie is a two-part episode from the first season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek. It comprises the eleventh and twelfth broadcast episodes of the series. Written by series creator Gene Roddenberry and directed by Marc Daniels (part one) and Robert Butler (part two), it is the only two-part story in the original series. Part I was broadcast by NBC on November 17, 1966, and Part II was broadcast on November 24, 1966. In the episode, Spock abducts his former co... ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/16 "2008-01-19T16:43:27Z")
$10 says it’s only a metaphor for the rebuilding of the franchise. The move doesn’t even hit the screens until December, and I’ll bet we might actual be seeing footage of the set being built, and maybe they thought it would be cool to use that as if the actual Enterprise was being constructed. In that way, they wouldn’t be spending anymore money than they already were on the film, and could come out with (what I thought) was a kick ass teaser. Something that probably wouldn’t be used in the actual film (but who knows?). The line, “Under Construction” is a clue in that regard I think. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/17 "2008-01-19T16:46:40Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] Who’s Winona Ryder going to be playing - Amanda, Spock’s mom? [/QUOTE] Yup. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/18 "2008-01-19T16:52:03Z")
Spock’s mom is hot! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/19 "2008-01-19T17:09:32Z")
[QUOTE=yojimbo] Pike > **[The Menagerie (Star Trek: The Original Series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Menagerie_(TOS_episode))** > > "The Menagerie" is a two-part episode from the first season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek. It comprises the eleventh and twelfth broadcast episodes of the series. Written by series creator Gene Roddenberry, with portions directed by Marc Daniels (credited for part one) and portions directed by Robert Butler (credited for part two). It is the only two-part story in the original series. Parts I and II were broadcast by NBC on November 17, 1966, and November 24, 1966... [/QUOTE] Wait… he was in an unaired pilot\*, and he’s still part of series continuity? Does that mean that us Buffy fans should be angry that Willow isn’t a [chubby brunette?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unaired_pilot_%28Buffy_episode%29) - I think pilots - even those that actually air - shouldn’t be held to strict continuity standards in any case. Let the series find its footing first before you start niggling about details. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124/20 "2008-01-19T17:41:54Z")
The pilot was heavily used as flashback material in a later TOS ep. Which had the character Pike in it, albeit played by a different actor [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-trek-xi-teaser-trailer/434124.md?page=2)