# Star Wars: A New Hope - Is it possible the deleted Biggs scene ever aired when the movie was released **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396 "2021-09-09T20:58:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joemama24\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@joemama24\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joemama24_98)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/1 "2021-09-09T20:58:13Z")
Regarding this deleted scene, which is now available on Disney+ > **[Mark Hamill reflects on deleted Star Wars scenes and how they rounded out...](https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/mark-hamill-deleted-star-wars-scenes-luke-skywalker)** > > In a new interview, Mark Hamill laments the loss of key deleted scenes from Star Wars which rounded out Luke Skywalker's character. I could picture this scene in my head before I actually watched it. I’ve sworn to my friends for some time I recall seeing this scene in the movie (broadcast on HBO when I was a kid). The memory seems so real, but I know studies have shown that “memories” can be manufactured. But, I swear I had seen this when I was younger. Anyone else remember it? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/2 "2021-09-09T21:02:08Z")
Link’s busted. Edit out the @discobot part. ---
**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/discobot/32/570_2.png) [@discobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discobot)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/3 "2021-09-09T21:02:09Z")
Hi! To find out what I can do, say `@discobot display help`. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/4 "2021-09-09T21:02:59Z")
Goddammit ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/5 "2021-09-09T21:03:56Z")
For what it’s worth, I’ve seen lots of Star Wars, including VHS versions, the original, etc., and I don’t remember ever seeing those scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/6 "2021-09-09T21:04:23Z")
These scenes were featured in one Star Wars picture book I had as a kid, I bought it through the Scholastic book program, so you might be remembering it from a similar source. See details here: > **[Biggs Darklighter - the original Rebel](http://episodenothing.blogspot.com/2014/04/biggs-darklighter-original-rebel.html)** > > "The Rebellion's spreading, Luke": Garrick Hagon as Biggs confides in Luke Skywalker I can distinctly remember a thought that crossed... ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/7 "2021-09-09T21:06:04Z")
I probably saw A New Hope five times in the theaters in '77 and '78; the scene in question was never in the film when I saw it back then. I also remember seeing the movie a lot when it first was shown on cable TV (1983 or so), and neither that scene, nor any of the other deleted scenes, were in it – it was the same as the original theatrical release. That said, I’ll note that: - The scene was in the novelization which was also issued in 1977 (and may have been in the comic book adaptation, as well) - Images from that deleted scene have been around since then, too. _(Edit: see @Horatius 's link, which includes images from the Star Wars Storybook)_ - An adapted version of the scene (along with many other additional scenes) was included in the [radio drama adaptation of the film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_(radio_series)), which first ran on NPR in the U.S. in 1981. (_I added this to the list just as @erysichthon made their post below_) - Video clips of it have been out there since the '90s, if not before – I have a CD-ROM from LucasArts, from around 1998, called “Star Wars: Behind the Magic,” which has that scene, among other deleted scenes, on it. I’m going to ascribe it to the Mandela Effect. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/8 "2021-09-09T21:12:17Z")
IIRC, the “Biggs scene” was also in the 1981 NPR radio dramatization. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/9 "2021-09-09T21:27:49Z")
One day, not too long from now, when all of us that were there in 1977 are dead and buried, and no one watches Blu ray anymore, in the Glorious Future Land of all streaming, Disney will add that scene to the movie, and it will officially have always been there. And there will be no evidence to say otherwise. I weep for that future. Close the blast doors. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/10 "2021-09-09T23:31:27Z")
Maklunkey! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/11 "2021-09-09T23:36:35Z")
_“Biggs Darklighter”???_ Are you fucking shitting me??? 🙄 That name would be ridiculous in a porn parody. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/12 "2021-09-09T23:39:00Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > _“Biggs Darklighter”???_ Are you fucking shitting me??? And, remember that Biggs also flew in the same squadron as a heavyset guy named Porkins. [![](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Star-Wars-Rebel-Pilot-Porkins.jpg) ](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Star-Wars-Rebel-Pilot-Porkins.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/13 "2021-09-09T23:41:53Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > _“Biggs Darklighter”???_ Are you fucking shitting me??? 🙄 > > That name would be ridiculous in a porn parody. Luke was originally going to be called Luke Starkiller. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/14 "2021-09-09T23:46:09Z")
Lucas was a true master at subtlety, wasn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/15 "2021-09-09T23:51:41Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > And, remember that Biggs also flew in the same squadron as a heavyset guy named Porkins. They had only top men in the squadron. Top. Men. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/16 "2021-09-09T23:53:35Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > They had only top men in the squadron. > > Top. > Men. This is true! [![](https://img.memegenerator.net/images/300x300/8354898.jpg) ](https://img.memegenerator.net/images/300x300/8354898.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/17 "2021-09-09T23:55:08Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Lucas was a true master at subtlety, wasn’t he? As Harrison Ford once famously said to him, “George! You can type this shit, but you sure can’t say it!” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/18 "2021-09-09T23:59:35Z")
I remember seeing a scene somewhat similar to [this one with Luke and his binoculars](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f00IkrWvur4&t=28s) at a drive-in in '77; I specifically recall wondering what the hell was going on when the POV shifted to this seemingly random dude. I do not remember seeing any Biggs scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/19 "2021-09-10T00:04:46Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > _“Biggs Darklighter”???_ Are you fucking shitting me??? You already knew this movie featured a shootout between guys named “Han Solo” and “Greedo,” and you’re surprised at “Biggs Darklighter?” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396/20 "2021-09-10T00:12:23Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > And there will be no evidence to say otherwise. “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.” –_1984_ And we’re doing it to ourselves. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-a-new-hope-is-it-possible-the-deleted-biggs-scene-ever-aired-when-the-movie-was-released/950396.md?page=2)