# Star Wars EP VII alleged script leak **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 23, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834 "2014-07-23T13:28:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/1 "2014-07-23T13:28:25Z")
We’ll the internet been buzzing on this. It seems to [be quite weird.](http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/star-wars-episode-7-script-leak/110826) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/2 "2014-07-23T14:38:15Z")
Has the entire script been leaked and is downloadable on the internet? [I posted about this dude’s summary over in the Episode VII anticipation thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17564851&postcount=101) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/3 "2014-07-23T15:14:04Z")
I hope this is accurate as I think it’s a really great premise. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/4 "2014-07-25T05:52:59Z")
That could be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/5 "2014-07-25T05:57:00Z")
Borrowed back from Doctor Who - who borrowed it from Star Wars - but it could be a great idea. Better than trade sanctions, at any rate. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/6 "2014-07-25T09:38:51Z")
I am going to have to go in the opposite direction and say that the premise supposedly leaked above sounds dumb as hell and unappealing to me. I think it’s a big misstep to include the older Luke, Han, and Leia as played by the original actors. There is a lot of interesting movie fodder from the extended Universe that happens after Return of the Jedi, but it occurs while Luke is still relatively young. By featuring a 60ish Luke, they will need to throw all that out. I don’t think the movie is going to be good. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/7 "2014-07-25T09:46:40Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > I hope this is accurate as I think it’s a really great premise. This is J.J. Abrams we’re talking about, co-creator of Lost. We know he can offer an intriguing mystery, the problem is the payoff. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/8 "2014-07-25T09:52:35Z")
Needs more Ewoks. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/9 "2014-07-25T11:22:50Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I am going to have to go in the opposite direction and say that the premise supposedly leaked above sounds dumb as hell and unappealing to me. > > I think it’s a big misstep to include the older Luke, Han, and Leia as played by the original actors. There is a lot of interesting movie fodder from the extended Universe that happens after Return of the Jedi, but it occurs while Luke is still relatively young. By featuring a 60ish Luke, they will need to throw all that out. > > I don’t think the movie is going to be good. They don’t need to “throw out” the expanded universe – it’s just a different universe. This could be a great story, or it could suck… but whether it’s great or not won’t have anything to do with how ‘faithful’ it was to the expanded universe. Think of it like this – the King Arthur story, or the Beowulf story, can be told in many ways, with many variations, and we’re generally okay with this. The same can go for any story. In 200 years, someone will do an interactive Star Wars body-download-mod (a ‘BODLMOD’) in which you can play Luke Skywalker and decide to join Darth Vader and cleanse the galaxy. This will still be a fun, cool story, perhaps. And it doesn’t ‘ruin’ any previous versions – they all can still be enjoyed. ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/10 "2014-07-25T11:36:05Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I am going to have to go in the opposite direction and say that the premise supposedly leaked above sounds dumb as hell and unappealing to me. > > I think it’s a big misstep to include the older Luke, Han, and Leia as played by the original actors. There is a lot of interesting movie fodder from the extended Universe that happens after Return of the Jedi, but it occurs while Luke is still relatively young. By featuring a 60ish Luke, they will need to throw all that out. > > I don’t think the movie is going to be good. They already _have_ thrown out the Extended Universe. It’s a completely blank slate. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/11 "2014-07-25T12:04:20Z")
Just re-watched the Bespin duel from ESB. Who put the glove on that hand? Also, how does a piece of debris from the surface of the planet make its way into deep space? Even if we allow the hand and lightsaber to reach the ground on the desert planet without being reduced to a cinder about the size of a Rice Krispie, that’s got to be Vader’s hand, flung into deep space by the explosion of Death Star Mk II. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/12 "2014-07-25T13:22:15Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Just re-watched the Bespin duel from ESB. Who put the glove on that hand? Also, how does a piece of debris from the surface of the planet make its way into deep space? Even if we allow the hand and lightsaber to reach the ground on the desert planet without being reduced to a cinder about the size of a Rice Krispie, that’s got to be Vader’s hand, flung into deep space by the explosion of Death Star Mk II. From my reading of the link: It’s not that hand. It’s another hand – i.e., sometime after ROTJ, Luke gets a hand cut off _again_, and somone finds it and brings it to Han and Chewie, and they go off to look for Luke because he may be in trouble (afterall, he’s lost another hand!). It sounds pretty intriguing to me. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/13 "2014-07-25T13:25:06Z")
Why are you spoiler-boxing a 30 year old movie? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/14 "2014-07-25T13:44:05Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Why are you spoiler-boxing a 30 year old movie? Maybe because of how it relates to the new movie. Also, I’ll ask again, is there a full script link or just the brief summary I mentioned before? ---
**Author:** ![Absinthe\_Anecdote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@Absinthe\_Anecdote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absinthe_Anecdote)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/15 "2014-07-25T14:15:50Z")
**[Nerd voice]** According to my calculations, Luke Skywalker’s severed hand would not have been able to escape the gravity of the gas giant Bespin. If you’ll remember, Luke lost his hand in Cloud City and his hand would have fallen to the planet’s surface. In conclusion, this can not be Luke’s hand. **[\Nerd voice]** ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/16 "2014-07-25T14:30:29Z")
> [@Double\_Foolscap](#): > > They already _have_ thrown out the Extended Universe. It’s a completely blank slate. One thing I’ve been told was explicitly thrown out is the New Republic. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/17 "2014-07-25T15:06:46Z")
What was Han Solo piloting? I would bet good money its an old Star Destroyer. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/18 "2014-07-25T15:39:25Z")
> [@Absinthe\_Anecdote](#): > > **[Nerd voice]** According to my calculations, Luke Skywalker’s severed hand would not have been able to escape the gravity of the gas giant Bespin. If you’ll remember, Luke lost his hand in Cloud City and his hand would have fallen to the planet’s surface. > > In conclusion, this can not be Luke’s hand. **[\Nerd voice]** Not his original anyway, but anyone who isn’t colourblind could’ve told you that without doing any calculations since he had _blue_ lightsaber in ESB. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/19 "2014-07-25T15:47:06Z")
Float from Bespin to another planet in only 30 years? Was the lightsaber equipped with hyperdrive? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834/20 "2014-07-25T16:37:05Z")
> [@Absinthe\_Anecdote](#): > > **[Nerd voice]** According to my calculations, Luke Skywalker’s severed hand would not have been able to escape the gravity of the gas giant Bespin. If you’ll remember, Luke lost his hand in Cloud City and his hand would have fallen to the planet’s surface. > > In conclusion, this can not be Luke’s hand. **[\Nerd voice]** It could be Luke’s other hand. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ep-vii-alleged-script-leak/693834.md?page=2)