# Star Wars Episode III: A Goofy Theory

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 2, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539 "2003-03-02T05:26:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/41 "2003-03-03T21:55:53Z")

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Larry.

He was executive producer, so my guess is that he bought the rights to the movie franchise. Universal released it, but I can’t find which company produced it.

I’ll prolly go and see ep III, whatever it might be called. And I’ll feel betrayed and swindled afterwards.

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**Author:** ![pitchaudio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pitchaudio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pitchaudio)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/42 "2003-03-20T01:54:07Z")

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Star Wars Episode III: This Movie Is Terrible, Don’t See It For The Life of You, You’ll Waste $9.50, And Since Lucas Is Already Loaded You Don’t Need To Give Him More Money So Why Bother? Go Support Your Local Independent Theater And See Something Else, It’ll Be Way Better And The Money Will Go To A Good Cause!  
And let’s not forget Lucas’s upcoming Ultra-Neato-Special-Super-Duper Edition of the original trilogy:

Star Wars Episode IV: A New New Hope  
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back Again  
Star Wars Episode VI: The Return of The Return of the Jedi

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/43 "2003-03-20T03:05:09Z")

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\*Star Wars Episode III:

Triumph of the Advertising  
Return of the Merchandising  
Jar Jar Bink’s Badassssss Song  
Up Yours from Skywalker Ranch  
Boba Fett Disappoints Again  
The Last Tatooinian Virgin  
Sand People Shindig  
Meesah See Dead Jedi  
Ahmet Best’s Career Ends  
Lucas Says: 'I’m Rich Bitch!" (my apologies to Dave Chapelle)

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/44 "2003-03-20T05:06:39Z")

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Well, Lucas has said that the Clone Wars will take place _off-camera_, so I’m betting the third one will be called _Star Wars: After the Clone Wars_ or similar. Personally, I think he _should_ call it: _Star Wars: Birth of an Empire_. A subtle reference to D. W. Griffith’s _Birth of a Nation_.

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/45 "2003-03-20T05:54:29Z")

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I saw a pretty cool fan-made poster for Episode III, on which the title was _Fall of the Jedi_. It seems the most likely to me, as it mirrors the _Return of the Jedi_ of Episode 6.

Personally, I’m looking forward to Episode 3 because I wwant to see lots of killin’!

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**Author:** ![Haplo721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/90ced4/32.png) [@Haplo721](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haplo721)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/46 "2003-03-20T06:53:17Z")

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Reports indicate that the Lucasfilm top brass want the film’s title to reference a circle, as in “The circle is now complete…”

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Great\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_One)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/47 "2003-03-20T09:08:58Z")

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Personally, I’m all for something like:  
_"Star Wars Episode III: Anakin Finally Kicks Butt and Gets a Cooler Name as Well as Coining a Phrase Known Forever Throughout the Galaxy and Franchising World"_\*  
Hmmm…It’s pretty catchy, don’t you think?

\*\*\*\*\*For those of you who are wondering, the phrase is, “Luke…I am your Father!!!”

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/48 "2003-03-20T11:56:49Z")

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> Star Wars Episode III: This Movie Is Terrible, Don’t See It For The Life of You, You’ll Waste $9.50, And Since Lucas Is Already Loaded You Don’t Need To Give Him More Money So Why Bother? Go Support Your Local Independent Theatre And See Something Else, It’ll Be Way Better And The Money Will Go To A Good Cause!

Because of course, every movie you see in an Independent theatre will be great, right?

There are just as much stinkers in Independent theatres as in big show theatres.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/49 "2003-03-20T12:26:42Z")

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[The Brunching Shuttlecocks](http://www.brunching.com/starwarstitles.html) are way ahead of you guys. They also have [these spoilers](http://www.brunching.com/starwarsforeshadow.html) for lines we’ll certainly hear in Episode III. Oh and [here](http://www.brunching.com/episodeii.html) were their suggestions for Episode II.

Me, I posted my guess for Episode III in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124375):

> [@](#):
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> \*\*Star Wars Episode 3: Obi-Wayne’s World \*\*  
> Relations between the two Jedis become strained as Obi-Wayne keeps making the same stupid joke to Amidala (“You’re a dolla? Here’s a fiver – keep the change! Hyuk hyuk hyuk!”). Darth is finally driven to go over to the Dark Side when Obi-Wayne discovers the name of Darth’s daughter. Also featuring Rob Lowe as Jar-Jar Binks.  
> _Typical line:_ “Party on, Obi-Wayne!” “Party on, Darth!”

We now return you to your regularly scheduled inanity.

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**Author:** ![OwenKL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47774/32.png) [@OwenKL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwenKL)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/50 "2003-03-20T12:27:44Z")

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It’s been noted that some titles have been reminiscent of classics (B-classics, maybe, but none-the-less…). And in the next one, Luke & Leia are to be born. So how about “The Princess’s Pride”?

Or maybe fairy-tale roots, with “The Emperor’s New Clones”?

Try out one of the titles from the Frankenstein franchise: “The Curse of Anakin”?

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**Author:** ![ChuckForbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@ChuckForbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChuckForbin)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/51 "2003-03-20T14:38:14Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by AcidKid \*  
\*\*… the already known presence of ET in Star Wars… \*\*/QUOTE]

yes, I remember that …

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> \*Originally posted by AcidKid \*  
> \*\*… and CP30 and R2D2 in Raider of the Lost Ark. \*\*

Huh ?

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**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/52 "2003-03-20T14:52:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Chronos \*  
> \*\*Duck? Naw. But I _could_ definitely see Marvin the Mar-- er, um, Marvin the Tatooinian. \*\*

Finally answering the question: “Just how _did_ the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator get _inside_ the Death Star?”

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**Author:** ![dil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f04885/32.png) [@dil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dil)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/53 "2003-03-20T17:07:09Z")

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Nerdy nitpick:

Vader never said “Luke… I am your father.”

This is one of the most often misquoted lines in movie history.

The actual line is “No… I am your father.”

Vader: He never told you what happened to your father.  
Luke: He told me enough. He told me **you** killed him.  
Vader: No… **I** am your father.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/54 "2003-03-20T19:14:46Z")

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I thought the Phantom Menace was Anakin. Actually, I checked with about 10 Star Wars geeks I know, and all of them said they thought it was Anakin, too.

Isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/55 "2003-03-20T19:33:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \*  
> I thought the Phantom Menace was Anakin. Actually, I checked with about 10 Star Wars geeks I know, and all of them said they thought it was Anakin, too.
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> Isn’t it?

What’s _phantom_ about that menace? The idea is that Sidious manages to convince everybody there’s a threat to stability when in fact _there is not really a threat_. Hence, _phantom menace_.

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**Author:** ![raizok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4491bb/32.png) [@raizok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raizok)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/56 "2003-03-20T19:40:20Z")

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You know, for the first time, I think I’m actually not going to see the new Star Wars movie untill it hits dvd.

Fuck Lucas, fuck him up his stupid ass. I’m not contributing to his box office success, that greedy fat fuck.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Great\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_One)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/57 "2003-03-22T08:25:10Z")

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So sorry, **dil**.

ON another note, have you ever heard the Star Wars Gangsta Parody, or something like that? Hahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/58 "2003-03-22T14:00:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by raizok \*  
> \*\*You know, for the first time, I think I’m actually not going to see the new Star Wars movie untill it hits dvd.
> 
> Fuck Lucas, fuck him up his stupid ass. I’m not contributing to his box office success, that greedy fat fuck. \*\*

**Moderators Notes**

**raizok** you’re still fairly new here so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you need to watch your language in this forum.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-iii-a-goofy-theory/158539/59 "2003-03-24T18:05:12Z")

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_Originally posted by Dil_

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> Vader: He never told you what happened to your father.  
> Luke: He told me enough. He told me you killed him.  
> Vader: No… I am your father.

That’s not right either. Vader said “No, Luke. I am your father.” I’m not sure if the punctuation is right, but that’s what he said.

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