# Star Wars Episode VII anticipation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936 "2013-08-23T02:11:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/481 "2015-04-17T18:07:15Z")
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t excited, but my inner cynic was thinking a more appropriate title would be Star Wars: The Nostalgic Pandering Awakens. And it worked, judging from this general internet reaction. I wonder if there will be anything original and interesting in this movie, or if it’ll just be recycled iconic images, music and dialogue from the originals, a la the Star Trek reboots. I cringed a little when the old and busted Harrison Ford showed up, just like when they trotted out the old and busted Nimoy. Like it lends the movies gravitas or something. Personally, it just invites comparisons to the older works, which is usually a losing game for the derivatives. Knock on wood. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/482 "2015-04-17T18:16:38Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Darth Vader’s burned helmet and Luke’s voice saying “my father HAS it” make me wonder if Anakin is what has awakened (now played by Ashton Kutcher). One possible way to explain this being spoken in the present tense is that, from Luke’s perspective, Anakin/Vader is still an active force ghost, occasionally taking an active role and giving Luke advice. So, Luke considers Anakin/Vader as merely “at One with the Force”, and not quite dead (yet). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/483 "2015-04-17T18:25:23Z")
My guess on the plot would be: - Luke and Han had twins, one boy and one girl - Rey, the girl, did not become a Jedi, but will now have to train - The boy, Kylo Ren, has fallen to the Dark Side and worships his grandfather. He strives for power. - Rey has to train to become a Jedi to attempt to pull her brother back to the light. Luke will train her, mainly in episode VIII. - John Boyega also awakens to the Force. I know nothing about his character, though. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/484 "2015-04-17T18:26:12Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > My guess on the plot would be: > > - Luke and Han had twins, one boy and one girl Um… ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/485 "2015-04-17T18:29:11Z")
The force is strong in that one 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/486 "2015-04-17T18:37:28Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Um… Midichlorians did it. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/487 "2015-04-17T19:25:31Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > My guess on the plot would be: > > - Luke and Han had twins, one boy and one girl Wow! That really would be something. I hope you’re right! ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/488 "2015-04-17T21:05:20Z")
I am so stupidly excited for this movie. I think the fact that BB8 _isn’t_ wholly CGI bodes really well. That says that they’re not taking what’s become the easy way and just letting greenscreen fix everything. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Luke and Han had twins, one boy and one girl I mean, that’s not how I expected that love triangle to resolve, but it’s great that they adopted! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/489 "2015-04-18T00:16:15Z")
Well, that was embarassing. :smack: Leia. Han and LEIA had twins. Now, I’m sure everyone here is very mature and I won’t be ridiculed about this and no one will make funny puns or carry on too far about my simple mistake. Right, everyone? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/490 "2015-04-18T03:29:48Z")
Well, this IS the Straight Dope we’re talking about here. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/491 "2015-04-18T06:14:32Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t excited, but my inner cynic was thinking a more appropriate title would be Star Wars: The Nostalgic Pandering Awakens. And it worked, judging from this general internet reaction. I wonder if there will be anything original and interesting in this movie, or if it’ll just be recycled iconic images, music and dialogue from the originals, a la the Star Trek reboots. I cringed a little when the old and busted Harrison Ford showed up, just like when they trotted out the old and busted Nimoy. Like it lends the movies gravitas or something. Personally, it just invites comparisons to the older works, which is usually a losing game for the derivatives. Knock on wood. Sorry, but even though I’m not a\* Star Wars\* nerd, I was the perfect age (12) when I saw the original, and I loved \*Empire \*(15), but absolutely hated _Jedi (18) and after much denial finally admitted to hating the prequels, I still absolutely love hearing the crowd go crazy upon seeing Cheewie and Ford at the end of this trailer. It just works!_ And I doubt that Abrams will go too heavy on the old stuff. If anything the fans will complain that he only gave lip service to the originals. Personally, I think extended cameos are just the right fit for this trilogy… ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/492 "2015-04-18T08:54:40Z")
I do have admit that seeing Old Han was the weakest part of the trailer. Old Wizened Jedi Luke works perfectly. Old Harrison Ford phoning it in is sad. The clip didn’t change my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/493 "2015-04-18T09:40:55Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] Luke and Han had twins, one boy and one girl. [/QUOTE] > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Well, that was embarassing. > > :smack: > > Leia. > > Han and LEIA had twins. > > Now, I’m sure everyone here is very mature and I won’t be ridiculed about this and no one will make funny puns or carry on too far about my simple mistake. Right, everyone? > > 😛 Well, maybe it _wasn’t_ a mistake. Luke _did_ have a twin (Leia) and maybe Han did too. ---
**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/494 "2015-04-18T10:22:01Z")
One thing I read; if this whole movie goes tits up we can call him Jar-Jar Abrams. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/495 "2015-04-18T11:13:21Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Sorry, but even though I’m not a\* Star Wars\* nerd, I was the perfect age (12) when I saw the original, and I loved \*Empire \*(15), but absolutely hated _Jedi (18) and after much denial finally admitted to hating the prequels, I still absolutely love hearing the crowd go crazy upon seeing Cheewie and Ford at the end of this trailer. It just works!_ > > And I doubt that Abrams will go too heavy on the old stuff. If anything the fans will complain that he only gave lip service to the originals. Personally, I think extended cameos are just the right fit for this trilogy… Imagine the audience reaction if an aging Han Solo shows up to gun down some unsuspecting bad guy who never gets off a shot. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/496 "2015-04-18T11:35:51Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > And I doubt that Abrams will go too heavy on the old stuff. If anything the fans will complain that he only gave lip service to the originals. Personally, I think extended cameos are just the right fit for this trilogy… Huh? In just 4 minutes of 2 trailers I’ve seen, I’ve seen the Falcon, Tie Fighters chasing the Falcon, the Falcon inexplicably flying through narrow pipes with Ties following, Stormtroopers, Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, R2, X-Wings, Darth, Tatooine (presumably), Yavin (presumably), Star Destroyers, several quotations from the original 3, music from the original 3. Abrams is utterly relying on the vintage stuff. He understands the angst fomented from the last 3 movies and correctly deduced it was because of the diversion. He gets it. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/497 "2015-04-18T14:26:47Z")
The first teaser was all new stuff besides a half second of the Falcon. This one was more old stuff. I am sure the movie will be a mix. Of course it will be derivative to a point. It is set in that world after all. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/498 "2015-04-18T14:56:10Z")
Are there Oscars for trailers? Because that one has to be a contender. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/499 "2015-04-18T15:53:28Z")
I can’t imagine BB8 doing anything that would make him Jar Jar. He’s cute and he doesn’t talk! ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/500 "2015-04-18T15:55:08Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Huh? In just 4 minutes of 2 trailers I’ve seen, I’ve seen the Falcon, Tie Fighters chasing the Falcon, **the Falcon inexplicably flying through narrow pipes with Ties following,** Stormtroopers, Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, R2, X-Wings, Darth, Tatooine (presumably), Yavin (presumably), Star Destroyers, several quotations from the original 3, music from the original 3. > > Abrams is utterly relying on the vintage stuff. He understands the angst fomented from the last 3 movies and correctly deduced it was because of the diversion. He gets it. “That’s no pipe.” It’s the [rear engine](http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/zs/tesb/exechoth4.jpg) of an upside down Super Star Destroyer (about 10x the size of your garden variety Star Destroyer). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936.md?page=26)