# Star Wars Episode VII anticipation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936 "2013-08-23T02:11:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/121 "2014-11-24T16:14:18Z")
The trailer is hitting theaters this week… > **['Star Wars: The Force Awakens' Trailer Debut Planned For Thanksgiving Week;...](https://www.slashfilm.com/535025/star-wars-the-force-awakens-trailer-debut/)** > > The Star Wars The Force Awakens trailer will debut in theaters this week. Learn more about the star wars the force awakens trailer debut. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/122 "2014-11-24T19:41:13Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > No way it’s true, it doesn’t make any sense. Luke’s hand would’ve been jettisoned out of Cloud City and plummeted deep down into Bespin (assuming it didn’t wind up in the bowels of Cloud City to rot somewhere). He has 2 hands and 30 years time playing with lightsabers- odds that it’s his other hand that got cut off seem pretty good and would make a lot more sense then the hand he lost at the end of Empire. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/123 "2014-11-24T20:37:26Z")
I assume we’ll get a bootleg of the trailer by the weekend. No idea why they don’t just show us the trailer within a day of it hitting theaters. ---
**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/124 "2014-11-24T20:46:44Z")
Ok - I hate to post this - as I assume I am being punked, but I don’t pick up on any obvious clues that I am being punked. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/plwVRYEQG_I/maxresdefault.jpg "Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer (Fan-Made)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plwVRYEQG_I) Please tell me what scene makes this fake. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/125 "2014-11-24T20:48:34Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’m anticipating that the next Star Wars film will be on par with the last 3 1/2 films: bad. I liked every single SW film.Sure, the first two were nigh lifechanging, and the rest “just” entertaining but I still enjoyed them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/126 "2014-11-24T20:51:07Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > JJ Abrams. From an idea by George Lucas. Without Lucas’s genius there never would have been any Star Wars. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/127 "2014-11-24T20:53:52Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > It’s gonna be watered-down, Disney-fied garbage. _Sure._ Like “A New Hope” was cutting edge gritty. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/128 "2014-11-24T21:20:16Z")
A sassy princess, obvious bad guys, destined heroes, magic, wise cracking side kicks, sudden redemption…yeah, SW is already a Disney flick. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/129 "2014-11-24T22:31:13Z")
I’m not sure it’s a good idea to have the Joker play Luke. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/130 "2014-11-24T22:59:58Z")
> [@DataX](#): > > Ok - I hate to post this - as I assume I am being punked, but I don’t pick up on any obvious clues that I am being punked. > > [http://youtu.be/plwVRYEQG\_I](http://youtu.be/plwVRYEQG_I) > > Please tell me what scene makes this fake. I think the Harrison Ford saying “You guys got room for an old war horse?” is from Expendables 3. ---
**Author:** ![Recusant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Recusant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recusant)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/131 "2014-11-24T23:11:37Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I know this is pure speculation, but I though I’d post it here since it will be fun to come back to when the actual movie comes out. It is what a guy claims is the premise of the movie, so I’ll spoiler box it even though it is likely false. > > [spoiler] Imagine the standard Star Wars crawl, and when it ends the camera pans up to the stars. But instead of a spaceship zooming into frame we see… a hand! A severed hand, tumbling through space. A severed hand gripping a light saber. > > That hand falls onto a desert planet, where it is discovered by characters who will be our heroes. One is Daisy Ridley. The other is John Boyega, who is playing someone trying to change his path in life (again, I’m keeping it vague here). They recognize the light saber as a Jedi relic and decide to return it to the proper people. > > Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren’t flying around in the Millenium Falcon anymore but are piloting… well, that could be a spoiler. I’ll leave it. Anyway, Han and Chewie recognize the light saber as Luke’s, and they say they haven’t seen their friend in thirty years, since the events of Return of the Jedi. > > So begins a quest to find the missing Jedi Master. Meanwhile, on an ice planet, nefarious forces are building a super weapon, one capable of destroying not planets but entire solar systems… > > In many ways this plot of Episode VII is an echo of A New Hope. Instead of R2 coming to Tatooine it’s a hand falling from the sky, but the basic sweep of the story is similar, and intentionally so. But things that seem familiar may not be as familiar as you think - don’t assume that every ice or desert planet in the galaxy has already been visited, if you know what I’m saying. > > There’s more, of course - this is just the broadest of outlines, a basic synopsis. On the one hand I sort of roll my eyes at the story echoing A New Hope, but on the other I like the propulsive quest concept. I’m hearing extremely positive things about the action, and very, very good things about the characters themselves and the way the actors are bringing them to life. Again and again I’m hearing that John Boyega owns this movie. [/spoiler] > > If that is true, that is one weird premise. No, not really. What happened to the object in question (no, not the saber) in the Thrawn trilogy (some of the few Star Wars books that were actually GOOD) was weird. What you’ve suggested is just kind of odd. And I’d imagine they wouldn’t want to tread anywhere near that close to the expanded universe. Or so I thought, until they started trying to pass off a Z-95 as a next generation X-wing. I’m a relatively mild Star Wars geek, but c’mon, has NO ONE involved in this production ever played TIE Fighter? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/132 "2014-11-24T23:59:51Z")
It may seem obviously crap now, but this trailer pumped us up in 1998/99 when it first hit. [Original Phantom Menace trailer.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6hOlI9cg4o) ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/133 "2014-11-25T02:45:18Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It may seem obviously crap now, but this trailer pumped us up in 1998/99 when it first hit. > > [Original Phantom Menace trailer.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6hOlI9cg4o) Amazing how bad that trailer was. Almost as bad as the film. Can’t wait to see the trailer for VII! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/134 "2014-11-25T03:41:43Z")
> [@DataX](#): > > Ok - I hate to post this - as I assume I am being punked, but I don’t pick up on any obvious clues that I am being punked. > > [http://youtu.be/plwVRYEQG\_I](http://youtu.be/plwVRYEQG_I) > > Please tell me what scene makes this fake. Well, I wouldn’t swear out an affidavit on it or anything, but a few things stick out to me: The longest shot we have of any character is the clip from RotJ at the beginning. Everyone else just gets a split second shot, usually in bad lighting. The lighting in general is very, very dark - could be the guy putting it up on YouTube screwed it up somehow, but it could also be a way to disguise sub-par CGI. The CGI itself is pretty much all spaceships and explosions, which are relatively easy for an amateur to do. Monsters are much more difficult, and despite being a staple of the genre, we don’t see any at all in the film. We also don’t really see any fight scenes between people, which is also a lot harder to stage if your an amateur, particularly the acrobatic lightsaber fights the series is famous for. Also, despite quite a bit of hype about Hamill, Fisher, and Ford returning for the new movie, we only see one of them in the trailer - coincidentally, the only one whom we’ve seen in costume prior to the release of this “trailer.” Also, I couldn’t swear to it, but I’m pretty sure I recognized at least two of those shots from other movies - the boot-level shot of a door opening, and some robed guy approaching a statue holding a bowl filled with some sort of radiant energy both looked familiar to me. Although, I think, the final pin in this trailer is the line by Harrison Ford as he attacks a Star Destroyer in the Millenium Falcon, which does not come, as **Mahaloth** thought, from _The Expendables 3_, but rather, from [_Anchorman 2: The Legend Continues_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY5Ug1OW5O4&feature=player_detailpage#t=196), shortly before he turns into a werewolf. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/135 "2014-11-25T05:06:08Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > Amazing how bad that trailer was. Almost as bad as the film. > > Can’t wait to see the trailer for VII! My first experience of the Phantom Menance trailer was a bootleg video camera recording that included the excited reaction of the theatergoers. It was exciting in the moment… ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/136 "2014-11-25T14:00:24Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > My first experience of the Phantom Menance trailer was a bootleg video camera recording that included the excited reaction of the theatergoers. It was exciting in the moment… The opening is very effective, especially if we remove all knowledge of how bad the actual movie is. The pod race is an amazing special effect sequence, though as an actual section of movie, it does not hold up well because it goes on too long. Seeing the quick cuts of it in the trailer, though, make it look awesome and fun. It still looks weird that a kid is in it. Why couldn’t Anakin have been 18 or older? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/137 "2014-11-27T01:09:10Z")
Disney caved and the trailer for the new one will be up on Itunes in HD Friday. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/138 "2014-11-27T05:57:04Z")
Hope it’s a nice post-Thanksgiving present. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/139 "2014-11-27T06:01:37Z")
Quit pretending it has an official release date and let it be released “virally.” Just release the damn thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936/140 "2014-11-27T14:38:19Z")
Never mind: Posted trailer, it was fake as well. My bad! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-episode-vii-anticipation-thread/666936.md?page=8)