# Star Wars Holiday Special (1978)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 10, 2006, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810 "2006-03-10T09:20:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tabithina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Tabithina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabithina)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/21 "2006-03-11T00:34:00Z")

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> [@RitzyRae](#):
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> I just… I dunno… does it really make almost no sense? What’s with the muscial numbers?

Yeah, it’s very…disjointed, to say the least.

In 1978, I was hospitalized with pnuemonia, and I had been kind of looking forward to watching the special on the TV in my room, because I was a young teen and I thought Mark Hammill was “teh hotness” at that time. Oh, what a crushing disappointment! Watching the whole thing with a raging fever did nothing to improve it. Ugh!

I just tried to watch it again, had to keep leaving the room. It’s that bad.

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**Author:** ![Dragwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dragwyr/32/2855_2.png) [@Dragwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragwyr)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/22 "2006-03-11T00:36:07Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> Now if you want real awful, there’s the Donny and Marie Star Wars episode. With Kris Kristofferson, Redd Foxx, and Paul Lynde.

And here I thought I had the absolute WORST in TV programming when I got my bootleg DVD.

I have to go searching for this one…

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**Author:** ![hammos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@hammos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammos1)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/23 "2006-03-11T00:39:29Z")

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Well, that’s two hours of my life that I’m never getting back.

What _were_ they thinking? The opening 10 minutes with no dialogue, no subtitles, no narration, just Wookie seal-barking? Chewbacca’s dad mashing his jaw in pleasure as he enjoys some interplanetary softcore porn in a virtual reality head-bucket? The imperial stormtroopers being distracted from their urgent search for rebel insurgents to watch a) Jefferson Starship videos and b) Bea Arthur’s turn as a down-on-her-luck cantina owner? Mark Hamill’s make-up was so heavy he might as well have done the thing in drag. And then Princess Leia _sings_…

Happy frigging Life Day indeed, you bunch of freaks.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/24 "2006-03-11T00:39:35Z")

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I’m a major _Star Wars_ fan. I refuse to watch this. Normally my curiosity would get the better of me, but…no way. Huh uh. I’ve heard too many horror stories.

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**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/25 "2006-03-11T01:42:56Z")

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I just finished watching it.

What the _fuck_ were they thinking?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/26 "2006-03-11T01:46:32Z")

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I am reminded of a great line from Roger Ebert:

The only proper use of any print of this film is to carve it up for banjo picks.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/27 "2006-03-11T02:44:33Z")

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That was as terrible as I’d always imagined it to be. Funny when things work that way.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/28 "2006-03-11T02:50:52Z")

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All right, I’m going in. _dons Bad Movie Mask_

Wish me luck!

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/29 "2006-03-11T03:16:39Z")

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Godspeed, **Guinastasia**. You’re braver than I am. I was curious once, but after so easily visualizing the “corona” around the actors superimposed on a digital background, and seeing those shots of Mark Hamill, I can’t muster the courage to subject myself to this. Jesus, he really does look like he’s in drag.

Seriously, though, I know Carrie Fisher sampled the blow a goodly number of times back in the day, but was she riding that particular snake when they filmed this?

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/30 "2006-03-11T03:18:09Z")

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I think I must have watched this when it first aired but I can’t remember a dang thing about it. My brain must be protecting me by blocking this horrible memory.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/31 "2006-03-11T03:22:57Z")

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Okay, so I’m up to the part where Luke (poor Mark! First he gets in a car accident, then this!) is talking to Chewie’s family on video phone or whatever. So far, it’s more _surreal_ than _bad_. The part with the acrobats-da’hell?

I also think this might be a lot of fun to watch while under the influence of various illegal substances.

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**Author:** ![awldune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@awldune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/awldune)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/32 "2006-03-11T03:44:26Z")

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Astounding!

Apparently, the “hybrid” creature design in _Alien: Resurrection_ was based on Chewbacca’s dad! I always knew it was too horrifying to be Giger’s work. 😉

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/33 "2006-03-11T03:53:16Z")

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What’s up with the weird Diana Carrole song? What’s the point? Is that supposed to be Chewie’s dad watching HoloNet pr0n? And this was for kids?

I just want to watch and see the coked out Carrie Fisher. Then I think I’ll turn it off. It’s just…not even painful, but just really stupid and it doesn’t seem to make much sense.

Meh, I give up-the quality is awful so I can’t tell if her eyes are bugged out or not. May I recomend the _Clone Wars_ cartoons instead? They’re excellent.

Hell, the two Ewok movies, even! (I LIKE ewoks, dammit).

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/34 "2006-03-11T03:54:09Z")

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I am a HUGE Star Wars fan. I have had the Holiday Special on my computer for years…

I have yet to make it through the opening credits of this thing.

I cannot imagine that this made it past my radar in 1978. I _must_ have seen it. And, if by some miracle it made it past me, I can’t imagine it making it past every kid in the neighborhood - but, I don’t even remember people taking about it until years later. Personally, I think I’ve blocked it out - it was just too traumatic for me. 😉

**Guinastasia** , how are you making out? Should we send help?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/35 "2006-03-11T03:56:38Z")

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I’m fine. I got bored-no way I’m sitting through two hours of that.

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/36 "2006-03-11T04:18:52Z")

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I (almost) watched this recently. I could only take it in short doses, and still haven’t finished. I made the mistake of trying to eat both during the Wookiee porn scene and the ‘I need a drink like Harvey Corman needs a hole in the head’ part. I showed it to some friends and we debated which of his characters is truly the most horrifying.

It’s true; this isn’t Entertainingly Bad. It’s more like, “see if you can watch _this_” Bad. You can only show it your friends because you either want them to share your misery, or simply expose them to what might be one of the worst things ever. It’s like the bad milk you have to make everyone else smell to show how bad it is.

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**Author:** ![The\_Punkyova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@The\_Punkyova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Punkyova)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/37 "2006-03-11T04:29:26Z")

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Our SciFi club showed this in December. Most of the poor, innocent undergrads were laughing, thinking they would enjoy a bad movie. I strenuously recommended alcohol, but was ignored by far too many. During the showing, the energy level in the room kept dropping, laughter was sucked out, eyes glazed over. Half way through, we quit. It just wasn’t worth it.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/38 "2006-03-11T05:53:28Z")

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I think the saddest thing of all was seeing Art Carney in this. It’s too bad that Audrey Meadows was apparently the only one to get royalties from _The Honeymooners_.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/39 "2006-03-11T07:19:13Z")

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Apparently, my Pit thread on this thing has disappeared, a shame, since it was better than the SWHS.

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**Author:** ![AmbushBug](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ambushbug/32/4600_2.png) [@AmbushBug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmbushBug)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2006, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-holiday-special-1978/347810/40 "2006-03-11T07:35:43Z")

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I noted that **Bruce Vilanch** has a writing credit on it. I want to know what parts he wrote made it to the final cut, so that I may ridicule and berate him accurately 😃

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