# Star Wars II title: You must be kidding **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 6, 2001, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199 "2001-08-06T23:12:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/1 "2001-08-06T23:12:52Z")
Abbreviated from Associated Press story ``` LOS ANGELES (AP) — The next installment of George Lucas’ science-fiction saga will be called “Star Wars: Episode II — Attack of the Clones.” Announced Monday on Lucasfilm’s official “Star Wars” Web site . . “Attack of the Clones” picks up 10 years after the action in “The Phantom Menace.” Hayden Christensen joins the cast as the young adult Anakin Skywalker, who evolves into villain Darth Vader. ``` George Lucas has had a famously tin ear when it comes to names, and I’m proud to see that he’s up to his usual standards. “Send in the Clones,” indeed. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/2 "2001-08-06T23:14:39Z")
Well, we had to get the Clone Wars in there somehow. At least it’s not \*_Star Wars: Clone Wars_. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/3 "2001-08-06T23:15:03Z")
I’m getting this incredible sense of [deja vue](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=80739) (but hey, some people don’t like going in the Pit) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/4 "2001-08-06T23:26:45Z")
What about **Star Wars 2: Clonetastic!** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/5 "2001-08-06T23:44:43Z")
Jesus H. Christ, _Star Wars_ is becoming more and more like _Star Trek_. How nauseating. “Attack of the Clones”… such a B-Movie title… ugh… ---
**Author:** ![Tyklfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@Tyklfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyklfe)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/6 "2001-08-06T23:52:49Z")
**Star Wars** : A blatent attempt to make ludicrous amounts of money based upon an ancient (but good) script with terrible screne writers ---
**Author:** ![Tyklfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@Tyklfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyklfe)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/7 "2001-08-06T23:55:26Z")
Ahhh, god bless Lucasarts! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/8 "2001-08-07T00:40:11Z")
That’s about as bad as _Revenge of the Jedi_. Oh, wait, that was a red herring… ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/9 "2001-08-07T01:29:37Z")
What do you want to bet that this title gets changed? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/10 "2001-08-07T01:43:08Z")
What about “A New Hope”…that was pretty craptastic. ---
**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/11 "2001-08-07T01:48:12Z")
But wasn’t “A New Hope” sort of backwards continuity? I mean, I really don’t remember that being attached to the first Star Wars when it came out, only when they released the videos years later to wring some more $$ out of fans waiting for “Episode 1” Correct me if I’m wrong here… ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/12 "2001-08-07T02:03:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*What about “A New Hope”…that was pretty craptastic. \*\* Especially given that it was only slapped on a few years after the original movie’s release. Cinematically, I think George Lucas is like a fat, overweight athlete who was rookie of the year some time in his twenties, retired early, spent the following twenty years running a chain of restaurants, and now is trying to return to the game in his late forties in a kind of pathetic attempt to relive his glory days. None of his former fans want to recognize that he sucks now–they saw Phantom Menace and wailed, “say it ain’t so, George”. Unfortunately, the title _Attack of the Clones_ might force them to face the cold light of dawn. To be fair, I think GL is a victim of his own success in some respects. The space fantasy/science fiction genre took so much from _Star Wars_ and went on to evolve so much from that starting point, that _Star Wars_ itself would look like a throwback if released today (as a new movie). I think GL’s problem is that he hasn’t evolved along with the genre he kick-started back in the 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![Cap\_n\_Crude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Cap\_n\_Crude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cap_n_Crude)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/13 "2001-08-07T02:29:58Z")
Doghouse Reilly wrote: > [@](#): > > Especially given that it was only slapped on a few years after the original movie’s release. **BZZZZT!** I’m sorry, that’s the wrong answer. Thanks for playing. Don, tell Mr. Reilly about the lovely parting gifts … 😛 The subtitle of the first _Star Wars_ movie has always been _A New Hope._ Just read the crawl at the beginning of the flick. I’ll grant you that it wasn’t used alongside the main title until just a few years ago, but it’s always been there. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/14 "2001-08-07T02:33:55Z")
Hey, everyone thought “The Phantom Menace” was a joke at first too. Trust me, it’ll grow on ya… ---
**Author:** ![Rossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@Rossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rossarian)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/15 "2001-08-07T02:44:12Z")
They could have just called it **Attack of the 50-foot Clone** and completed the B-Movie mystique. Though I admit, everything would sound strange probably. There’s just too much buildup. But I miss the Star Wars of my youth. ☹ It was there in flashes during Phantom Menace, but Jar Jar and Anakin bungling their way to victory left me unsatisfied. The Hoth scenes will forever remain genius. ---
**Author:** ![Jet\_Jaguar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jet_jaguar/32/3562_2.png) [@Jet\_Jaguar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jet_Jaguar)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/16 "2001-08-07T02:46:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pesch \* > > “Send in the Clones,” indeed. _ **NOTE TO ALL FUTURE POSTERS** _ This joke has now been used. It may now be removed from the running of “clever/witty irreverent things to say”, and will be placed in blackout status until tonight’s Jay Leno episode officially retires it. Your courteous compliance is appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/17 "2001-08-07T02:48:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cap’n Crude \* > > Doghouse Reilly wrote: > > > [@](#): > > > > Especially given that it was only slapped on a few years after the original movie’s release. > > **BZZZZT!** I’m sorry, that’s the wrong answer. Thanks for playing. Don, tell Mr. Reilly about the lovely parting gifts … 😛 > > The subtitle of the first _Star Wars_ movie has always been _A New Hope._ Just read the crawl at the beginning of the flick. I’ll grant you that it wasn’t used alongside the main title until just a few years ago, but it’s always been there. From the [Official _Star Wars_ Website](http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/classic/2001/08/classic20010806.html): > [@](#): > > “Episode IV: A New Hope” did not appear in the film during its opening run, but was added during the movie’s re-release to ensure consistency with The Empire Strikes Back. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/18 "2001-08-07T02:56:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cap’n Crude \* > \*\*The subtitle of the first _Star Wars_ movie has always been _A New Hope._ Just read the crawl at the beginning of the flick. I’ll grant you that it wasn’t used alongside the main title until just a few years ago, but it’s always been there. \*\* **BZZZZZZT!** Wrong answer! thanks for playing. Take it from one who saw _Star Wars_ on the big screen when it was first released (oh, so long ago). The subtitle _Episode IV: A New Hope_ was not, I repeat, _not_, I say a third time, _ **not** _ in the opening crawl in the original release. See all the differences between the original (and almost forgotten) release of _Star Wars_ and the “Episode IV” version: [http://www.teleport.com/~ceds/featured/star-wars-lost-footage.html](http://www.teleport.com/~ceds/featured/star-wars-lost-footage.html) ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/19 "2001-08-07T02:57:39Z")
DOH! I really need to type faster… ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-ii-title-you-must-be-kidding/75199/20 "2001-08-07T03:10:27Z")
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