# Star Wars nerds, help! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844 "2019-05-12T02:44:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/1 "2019-05-12T02:44:10Z")
That place with the Ewoks, the forest moon of Endor. Is it: A) endor is the name of said moon that has a forest and ewoks? OR B) the moon that has ewoks and forests that orbits the planet named endor? Thank you for solving this extremely important mystery. (Need answer fast, lest I stop caring) ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/2 "2019-05-12T02:48:43Z")
I recall it being referred to as “the forest moon of Endor”, but apparently both the moon and the planet it orbits are called Endor:[ > [@](#): > > Endor (also known as the Forest Moon of Endor or the Sanctuary Moon) was a small forested moon that orbited the Outer Rim planet of the same name and was the homeworld of the sentient Dulok, Ewok, and Yuzzum species, as well as the semi-sentient Gorax and Wistie races. ]([Endor | Wookieepedia | Fandom](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Endor)) ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/3 "2019-05-12T02:55:48Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I recall it being referred to as “the forest moon of Endor”, but apparently both the moon and the planet it orbits are called Endor:[URL=“[Endor | Wookieepedia | Fandom](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Endor)”] Ah. Well shit. Who wins the beer then? ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/4 "2019-05-12T02:58:34Z")
lol its a tie ya buy each other a round ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/5 "2019-05-12T02:59:35Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > lol its a tie ya buy each other a round Done and done! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/6 "2019-05-12T03:04:08Z")
No, no, no, that makes ZERO sense. If someone decided to call our moon “Earth”, it’d be awkward and idiotic. Or vice versa… [here’s a poem for Earth Day](https://www.familyfriendpoems.com/poems/nature/earth/), excuse me “Moon” Day: The moon is the planet given to us by God to live on. Despite what scientists might have us believe, it is the only planet in our solar system that humanity can comfortably inhabit. The moon is a paradise for the creatures that live on it. Every species on the moon has its place in the circle of life. Human beings need food, clothing, shelter to survive. All of these are provided in ample supply on God’s green moon… ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/7 "2019-05-12T03:06:58Z")
> [@digs](#): > > No, no, no, that makes ZERO sense. If someone decided to call our moon “Earth”, it’d be awkward and idiotic. > > Or vice versa… [here’s a poem for Earth Day](https://www.familyfriendpoems.com/poems/nature/earth/), excuse me “Moon” Day: > > The moon is the planet given to us by God to live on. > Despite what scientists might have us believe, it is the only > planet in our solar system that humanity can comfortably inhabit. > > The moon is a paradise for the creatures that live on it. > Every species on the moon has its place in the circle of life. > Human beings need food, clothing, shelter to survive. > All of these are provided in ample supply on God’s green moon… I agree, but I’m not exactly expecting anything with ewoks to make sense. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/8 "2019-05-12T03:09:51Z")
> [@digs](#): > > No, no, no, that makes ZERO sense. If someone decided to call our moon “Earth”, it’d be awkward and idiotic. > > Or vice versa… [here’s a poem for Earth Day](https://www.familyfriendpoems.com/poems/nature/earth/), excuse me “Moon” Day: > > The moon is the planet given to us by God to live on. > Despite what scientists might have us believe, it is the only > planet in our solar system that humanity can comfortably inhabit. > > The moon is a paradise for the creatures that live on it. > Every species on the moon has its place in the circle of life. > Human beings need food, clothing, shelter to survive. > All of these are provided in ample supply on God’s green moon… You think _that’s_ bad, the (moon) Endor orbits the (planet) Endor, which has two suns - Endor I and Endor II. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/9 "2019-05-12T03:14:19Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > You think _that’s_ bad, the (moon) Endor orbits the (planet) Endor, which has two suns - Endor I and Endor II. > :smack: That’s some lazy writing. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/10 "2019-05-12T03:15:54Z")
Yeah, that’s as awkward and idiotic as giving a city the same name as a state. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/11 "2019-05-12T03:17:04Z")
Is the capital city Endor City of the Endor province? Ninja’d! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/12 "2019-05-12T03:35:39Z")
And here’s the real kicker: The name of the Galaxy? You know, the one far, far away? Where it all takes place? Missouri. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/13 "2019-05-12T04:28:22Z")
I would have been happy with the moon being called Endor (referred to as a sanctuary moon), and the planet (a gas giant, so you can’t live on it) called something else. But back when these things were being figured out, the dark times, non-canonical sources such as the folks writing the role playing game, West End Games, made some of these decisions somewhat arbitrarily, and they sadly still stick around. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/14 "2019-05-12T06:21:24Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > You think _that’s_ bad, the (moon) Endor orbits the (planet) Endor, which has two suns - Endor I and Endor II. > :smack: If you squint and assume that, rather than proper names, the designations are part of a cataloguing system, it almost makes sense. Two suns, some uninhabitable planets and smaller bodies, and one inhabitable moon that’s referred to as a “Sanctuary Moon” (possibly indicating that it was placed off-limits to development by the Republic at some point to protect the native developing sapients). No one bothered to give the celestial bodies in the system names, they just numbered them. Later, when the Empire started their little project in the system and people started needing to talk about the body where the Imperials had their base, they just used the system name for it, dropping the catalog number because there was only one body of interest in the system. “Forest moon” might be less a clarification of location than a quick summary of local conditions. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/15 "2019-05-12T11:23:27Z")
FWIW the original RotJ Novelization said the gas giant was called Endor and the location of the shield generator and Ewoks (a word incidentally never said once in the movie) was a moon of Endor. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/16 "2019-05-16T23:53:17Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > You think _that’s_ bad, the (moon) Endor orbits the (planet) Endor, which has two suns - Endor I and Endor II. > :smack: Nah, then it’d be a desert, like Tatooine. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-nerds-help/833844/17 "2019-05-17T03:52:12Z")
On a related note: [https://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html](https://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html) > **[No Endor Holocaust - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoEndorHolocaust)** > > Explosions are cool. So are giant objects. Therefore, giant objects exploding are extremely cool, but let's think about this for a moment. Halt the Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever in a major city by blowing it up. Or just kill it and let it fall …