# Star Wars Scandal! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 16, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172 "2016-11-16T16:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/1 "2016-11-16T16:13:42Z")
Actors having a fling while making a movie isn’t normally front page news. But Carrie Fisher just revealed in her new book that she had a three-month affair with Harrison Ford while shooting Star Wars. Even that isn’t a big deal. is this? She was 19 and he was 34 and married. He offered to take her home because she was “wine sodden” and they ended up in bed. Ouch. She also can’t remember the details outside of what she wrote in her diary because of ”the brutal strength of Harrison’s preferred strain of pot.” She thought this was all OK. Carrie fantasized that he would ask her to marry him and give her a “gold band with diamonds (inscribed) ‘Carrison.”’ She invented Bennifer and Brangelina! Oh yeah. He wasn’t a good lover. Princess Leia, oh my. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/2 "2016-11-16T16:21:09Z")
It’s not a scandal. She’s never actually admitted it before, but she’s dropped hints the size of a “small moon” over the years, and it’s not like Ford had a chaste reputation either. I was innocent as the new-driven snow when I was a child and teenager, and even I suspected there was something going on between those two. I didn’t know he was married at the time, but honestly that doesn’t really make it any more shocking either. It is legal, and probably super common, but it is skeevy on his part, and shows how young and star-struck and desperate and immature she was at the time. Honestly I think it makes him look worse than it makes her. She’s been fairly open that she thinks her life choices around that time were stinkers just like everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/3 "2016-11-16T16:42:23Z")
How is this news? I knew about this affair years ago. They both semi-openly acknowledged that they screwed while they were both coked out of their minds on ESB. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/4 "2016-11-16T16:43:23Z")
“Star-struck?” Was Harrison Ford even remotely a star at that point? I’d pretend to be shocked, but honestly, I sort of assume that movie sets are just hot beds of well, hot beds. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/5 "2016-11-16T17:06:23Z")
I can’t imagine anyone caring now, and not many people would have cared then. Among all the movie star liaisons there have ever been this one is among the dullest. Sounds like Carrie’s career of complaining about Star Wars has waned and she had to renew interest somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/6 "2016-11-16T17:10:30Z")
My favorite part is her not understanding why he would choose to sleep with her. Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that you were 19… ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/7 "2016-11-16T17:12:45Z")
> [@lasciel](#): > > It’s not a scandal. She’s never actually admitted it before, but she’s dropped hints the size of a “small moon” over the years, and it’s not like Ford had a chaste reputation either. “THAT’S NO MOON!” x ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/8 "2016-11-16T17:57:10Z")
The use of the word “Scandal” was clickbait. The use of it with Star Wars was snark. Have you guys read some of the Star Wars trivia that’s posted here and taken seriously? It’s just a movie. Get a life. Though if in today’s world a 34-year-old married man took a 19-year-old to bed when she was drunk, the skies would open with abuse. She’s talked a lot since about how she doesn’t handle alcohol well. Carrie herself says she was sexually inexperienced at the time, so her later escapades are irrelevant. She’s not making any accusations that I can see, and I’m not making one for her. It was long ago and far away. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/9 "2016-11-16T18:17:24Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I can’t imagine anyone caring now, and not many people would have cared then. Among all the movie star liaisons there have ever been this one is among the dullest. Sounds like Carrie’s career of complaining about Star Wars has waned and she had to renew interest somehow. Really? I just assumed that Fisher held off out of respect, but now that Harrison Ford’s wife at the time, Melissa Mathison, has passed away (she wrote E.T. and her death was covered in the press recently). So Carrie was no longer at risk for upsetting her and she (Carrie) cleared it with Harrison Ford, so it was okay. But “lousy in bed”? Surprised Ford okayed that!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/10 "2016-11-16T18:24:43Z")
I don’t blame Ford. I would have boffed Carrie Fisher then, too. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/11 "2016-11-16T18:42:20Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > “Star-struck?” Was Harrison Ford even remotely a star at that point? Well, Carrie was knee-deep in the biz, indirectly (via her mom) and directly (her previous film SHAMPOO was an Oscar-winner), so she would’ve known him from his roles in GRAFFITI and THE CONVERSATION. He wasn’t a household name, but he also wouldn’t have been “Harrison Who?” when she first met him on the set. As good a time as any to recommend the new documentary BRIGHT LIGHTS, an in-depth exploration of her relationship with Debbie Reynolds. It includes a charming section with Carrie at a Star Wars convention hobnobbing with fans. Warm, witty, and really enlightening for any fans of Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/12 "2016-11-16T18:49:12Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Get a life. Dial it back a bit please, it’s getting a bit strong for out of the Pit posts. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/13 "2016-11-16T18:54:45Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Dial it back a bit please, it’s getting a bit strong for out of the Pit posts. That’s William Shatner’s SNL punchline to Star Trek fans. It was just a joke, not referring to any individual posters in this thread. I have no plans to insult anyone here. > [@WordMan](#): > > Really? I just assumed that Fisher held off out of respect, but now that Harrison Ford’s wife at the time, Melissa Mathison, has passed away (she wrote E.T. and her death was covered in the press recently). So Carrie was no longer at risk for upsetting her and she (Carrie) cleared it with Harrison Ford, so it was okay. > > But “lousy in bed”? Surprised Ford okayed that!! 😉 Melissa Mathison was Ford’s second wife. He was married to Mary Marquardt at the time. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/14 "2016-11-16T19:01:51Z")
He was acting like a scoundrel. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/15 "2016-11-16T19:05:08Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Really? I just assumed that Fisher held off out of respect, but now that Harrison Ford’s wife at the time, Melissa Mathison, has passed away (she wrote E.T. and her death was covered in the press recently). So Carrie was no longer at risk for upsetting her and she (Carrie) cleared it with Harrison Ford, so it was okay. I was just speculating, I don’t follow this stuff closely. I suppose it was somewhat decent of her not to tell this story while his former wife was alive but I don’t really see the need to tell this story at all. But if it’s exciting for the fanboys then I’m happy for them. Seeing some modding above I won’t say exactly why. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/16 "2016-11-16T19:14:34Z")
> [@MovieMogul](#): > > Well, Carrie was knee-deep in the biz, indirectly (via her mom) and directly (her previous film SHAMPOO was an Oscar-winner), so she would’ve known him from his roles in GRAFFITI and THE CONVERSATION. He wasn’t a household name, but he also wouldn’t have been “Harrison Who?” when she first met him on the set. Maybe. Bear in mind that Ford was working as a carpenter when Lucas was casting Star Wars, since he wasn’t able to make ends meet as an actor. He was a working actor, certainly, but no more a “star” at that point than the hundreds of actors who get a couple of small TV or movie roles each year. Also, from what I’ve read, Fisher suffered from a lot of self-doubt, and was convinced that she wasn’t skinny enough or attractive enough to make it an actress. So, if she was “starstruck”, it might well have simply been because an extremely handsome older man was attracted to her, as much as the fact that he was a semi-famous actor. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/17 "2016-11-16T19:20:01Z")
She knew what she was doin’ ! ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/18 "2016-11-16T19:22:08Z")
She revealed in her new book. She is promoting her new book. And good for her. Marketing, it’s not that hard. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/19 "2016-11-16T19:32:53Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Though if in today’s world a 34-year-old married man took a 19-year-old to bed when she was drunk, the skies would open with abuse. She’s talked a lot since about how she doesn’t handle alcohol well. Carrie herself says she was sexually inexperienced at the time, so her later escapades are irrelevant. I would bet all that I own that “in today’s world” 34 year old married men occasionally sleep with 19 year old drunk women. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172/20 "2016-11-16T20:53:07Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I would bet all that I own that “in today’s world” 34 year old married men occasionally sleep with 19 year old drunk women. And once again, I find myself slightly desirous of Procrustus’ bed… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-scandal/772172.md?page=2)