# Star Wars The Acolyte

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [March 19, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056 "2024-03-19T22:37:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/41 "2024-06-07T20:07:20Z")

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Am I alone thinking that it would be a good thing to have the problem still be that the Force is not in balance but is because the Jedi are unchecked?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/42 "2024-06-07T20:08:35Z")

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> [@vislor](#):
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> > [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> > Also, let’s put a WiFi-enabled hacker cyborg on a ship piloted by robot chairs.
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> Well, she’s not the one who got them out.

This is the WiFi-enabled hacker cyborg I meant. Remotely deactivated the chairbots.

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/0NvfxbC3/Screenshot-20240607-160424.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/0NvfxbC3/Screenshot-20240607-160424.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/43 "2024-06-07T20:21:05Z")

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Here’s a (unintentionally) funny article about the first episode. A whole piece built around the implications of Jedi Master Moss reporting an “unregistered force user” during the battle. Except what she actually said was “an unidentified force user”…

> **[The Acolyte Makes a Dark Reveal About the Jedi's Control of the Force](https://comicbook.com/starwars/news/star-wars-do-jedi-control-force-use-explained-acolyte-high-republic/)**
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> Star Wars: The Acolyte dropped some details that show how Jedi may have had too much control over \[...\]

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/44 "2024-06-07T21:34:40Z")

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I really like Sol and the story, but there are details that are clunky to me (make up, acting, dialog, etc. Not _all_ of it but enough here and there that it takes me out). And some things, like Yord’s hair, are fucking awful, but the hair in the OT was pretty bad when the 70s/80s seeped through. So, like twins as characters, it carries on a SW tradition. I might start calling him Jedi Gen-Z. I swear I saw him when I dropped my kid off at school.

My theory right now about the twins is that it is more of a Bart and Hugo situation and they tried to kill the wrong one.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/45 "2024-06-07T21:44:11Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> a Bart and Hugo situation

Wow, that’s a deep cut. (28 years ago.)

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/46 "2024-06-08T01:13:44Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> A whole piece built around the implications of Jedi Master Moss reporting an “unregistered force user” during the battle. Except what she actually said was “an unidentified force user”…

In the context the mistake makes little difference. It follows the “who trained you?!?” The implications in that scene stand: the Jedi keeps tabs on who gets trained in use of the Force and someone trained outside their watchful eyes, outside their control, is a worrisome issue, not allowed. There is no registering Force users because the only path to using the Force is under their control. The implication is they would enforce that, and there is little doubt to my ear that they would have no problem being judge jury and executioner.

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**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/47 "2024-06-08T18:34:41Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> This is the WiFi-enabled hacker cyborg I meant. Remotely deactivated the chairbots.

Ah, my apologies. Yes, they should have given that cyborg a restraining bolt.

> [@DSeid](#):
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> In the context the mistake makes little difference. It follows the “who trained you?!?” The implications in that scene stand: the Jedi keeps tabs on who gets trained in use of the Force and someone trained outside their watchful eyes, outside their control, is a worrisome issue, not allowed. There is no registering Force users because the only path to using the Force is under their control. The implication is they would enforce that, and there is little doubt to my ear that they would have no problem being judge jury and executioner.

I think this is accurate and more interesting. It puts the Jedi in a much darker context than we have seen. I wonder if that’s their deal with politicians? The politicians stay out of their way as long as the Jedi patrol and control their own, being all force wielders. It might explain why most Jedi we see react negatively to any non Jedi type, regardless of their intentions.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/48 "2024-06-08T19:51:31Z")

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Really enjoyed the first two episodes. Story and characters were decent, but what I really enjoyed was the tone and design of it - it seemed like the most Star Wars-y of all the series so far… I loved all the different planets, the aliens, the Jedi mumbo-jumbo, etc.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/49 "2024-06-08T20:44:39Z")

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I’ve seen both now, still liking it. I like that even the Jedi are more colourful.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/50 "2024-06-08T21:10:38Z")

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I liked that Yord appears to wear the “formal” Jedi outfit even tough he probably doesn’t need to. Fits his personality.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/51 "2024-06-08T21:29:25Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Indara letting herself be distracted. Rookie move. I thought the Jedi had spidey-sense.

That didn’t bother me at all. She (and the jedi in general) have had millenia of peace. They have grown complacent and overconfident.

And her opponent isn’t just some random person… but a force user, who can presumably act much quicker than a normal human, and possibly in a way that is much harder to force-anticipate for whatever reason.

We’ve seen Jedi killed by non-force-users before. They’re not invulnerable.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/52 "2024-06-08T21:33:59Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> In the context the mistake makes little difference. It follows the “who trained you?!?” The implications in that scene stand: the Jedi keeps tabs on who gets trained in use of the Force and someone trained outside their watchful eyes, outside their control, is a worrisome issue, not allowed. There is no registering Force users because the only path to using the Force is under their control. The implication is they would enforce that, and there is little doubt to my ear that they would have no problem being judge jury and executioner.

I don’t know if any mean to control every use of the Force, but I think they very much want to have the exclusive right to _weaponize_ the Force. That’s why she asked who trained her - because Force users who have been trained in combat are inherently a threat to the Jedi Order.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/53 "2024-06-09T02:36:16Z")

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I liked the first two episodes well enough. it has a good and feel but the dialogue is sometimes a little off. Too modern and 21st century America sounding but this is a problem on a lot of shows.

I also couldn’t help but nitpick when in the first episode the Green Head says “We want to keep this quiet” but a second later says she wants them to “make an example of her”. Those are the opposite things. You yell examples loud and clear, not keep them quiet. Like I said, nitpick.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/54 "2024-06-10T06:03:50Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I also couldn’t help but nitpick when in the first episode the Green Head says “We want to keep this quiet” but a second later says she wants them to “make an example of her”. Those are the opposite things. You yell examples loud and clear, not keep them quiet. Like I said, nitpick.

Not necessarily. Maybe what she meant was that she wanted to keep it quiet from the public at large, but make an example of her inside the Jedi Order.

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**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/55 "2024-06-10T19:26:21Z")

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I got sent this. It’s not wrong.

Some strong language.

[Critical Drinker review of ep 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng846hx8Z_s)

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/56 "2024-06-10T22:32:49Z")

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A small request to please warn that something is a video link.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/57 "2024-06-11T14:53:02Z")

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I’m sorry about that. I will make sure I do that going forward.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/58 "2024-06-11T15:25:42Z")

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And my apologies if I came off as junior modding. But thanks.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/59 "2024-06-11T15:52:24Z")

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I watched that the other day. He makes a few valid points, but for the most part, he nitpicks and overthinks everything.

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**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-acolyte/999056/60 "2024-06-12T14:11:38Z")

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Is it possible to jump the shark in episode 3 of a new show? The first two episodes had some redeeming features. This new episode was filled with cringy acting, bad plot, poor special effects, and terrible dialogue. I turned it off with 5-10 minutes left. I might come back and try to finish it if I hear that things improve.

Disney plus has not been doing to well for me lately. I have not liked the Secret Wars, Echo, Ahsoka, and now this show. And I am a huge Star Wars/Marvel fan.

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