# Star Wars: The Bad Batch on Disney + \[Open Spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** disney-hulu, tv-shows-scripted, cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [May 4, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363 "2021-05-04T10:58:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/1 "2021-05-04T10:58:01Z")
I’ve just seen the first episode of _The Bad Batch_ on Disney+ So, we’re following the continuing adventures of Clone Force 99, “The Bad Batch”. They’d appeared in the previous series _The Clone Wars_, and both are helmed by Dave Filoni. We start off with Jedi Deppa Billaba and a group of clone troopers in a spot of bother - outgunned, outnumbered. She’s sent her Padawan off for reinforcements, and he returns, telling them the reinforcements are on the way. The padawan’s name is Caleb, by the way… 😉 Anyway, Clone Force 99 arrives with an avalanche, and quickly rout the attacking battle droids. They move off, and as they do, the regular clone troopers receive a holo message. “Execute Order 66”. Deppa is attacked by her former comrades, and tells Caleb to run, which he does. Hunter and the rest of Clone Force 99 are confused; they aren’t compelled to follow that order as the regular clone troopers are. Hunter and Crosshair take off after the Padawan, while the others try to work out what’s going on. …and so on. There’s quite a bit going on, and my initial impression is pretty good. On the one hand, I was able to call a lot of what happened ahead of time, but I’m pretty genre-savvy. On the other hand, I enjoyed what was going on, and the details of how they got there. I’m a little dubious about the character of Omega, but they managed Ezra pretty well, so I’m content to see how it goes. Early days, but I’m eager for next week. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/2 "2021-05-04T14:22:05Z")
So, for some context, this is a new animated series on Disney Plus. I notice some other new items in celebration of Star Wars Day (May the Fourth). ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/3 "2021-05-04T17:57:12Z")
Cool, glad this is out. Did I miss anything else Star Wars since The Mandalorian? The Obi Wan series is what I’m really looking forward to. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/4 "2021-05-04T18:33:32Z")
Nope, Bad Batch is the first thing since the Mandalorian ended. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/5 "2021-05-04T19:01:29Z")
I thought it was pretty good. The episode did just keep going though. I thought it was going to be a 30 min show and there I was more than an hour later. I’m a bit disappointed in them adding the kid hopefully Omega doesn’t turn into the next Grogru. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/6 "2021-05-04T20:19:17Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > Cool, glad this is out. Did I miss anything else Star Wars since The Mandalorian? Well, there is the fly-through and biome. > **[Watch Star Wars Vehicle Flythroughs | Disney+](https://www.disneyplus.com/series/star-wars-vehicle-flythroughs/6HW19724nXLU)** > > Fly through some of the most iconic Star Wars ships and vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/7 "2021-05-04T22:33:13Z")
So I think Omega’s mutation (aside from being female) is that she is Force Sensitive. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/8 "2021-05-04T22:59:23Z")
Oh man did I cry when I realized that was Kanan. I didn’t really like the last season of TCW, but I’ll watch this in case little tidbits happen like Kanan and Saw. It’s 20 minutes a week. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/9 "2021-05-04T23:47:04Z")
Perhaps it was the accent or intonation of the speaker when I first heard about it, but I have thought it was _The Bad Bitch_ for a week now. Disney, Star Wars universe, I knew, and yet still that’s what I thought it was called. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/10 "2021-05-05T02:17:40Z")
That’s really amazing, I guess it’s CGI but it could very nearly be real. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/11 "2021-05-05T19:21:48Z")
I completely missed that that was Kanan from Rebels. Did they refer to him by name and I missed it? ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/12 "2021-05-05T20:15:29Z")
Sort of. The young Padawan in the first scene was named “Caleb”. In _Rebels_, it was established that Kanan Jarrus’ real name was Caleb Dume, but he started using the name “Kanan Jarrus” as an alias when he went on the run from the Empire. The rest of the character details also match (his master was Depa Billaba, she sacrificed herself to save him from the Clone Troopers executing Order 66, she died on the planet Kaller). However, I think all of the names were only specifically mentioned once or twice on _Rebels_, and I had forgotten them myself until I saw the commentary online about Caleb being Kanan. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/13 "2021-05-05T22:26:48Z")
Thank you! That makes a ton of sense. I can’t even use a bad memory as an excuse since I am rewatching Rebels at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/14 "2021-05-05T23:27:38Z")
Plus, that was Freddie Prinze Jr voicing the young padawan. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/15 "2021-05-06T13:24:24Z")
That’s what confirmed it for me. Once I figured out that it was Prinze I knew it had to be Jorrus but I was still a little thrown off because I didn’t remember that Caleb Dume was his real name. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/16 "2021-05-06T14:13:22Z")
So, the Bad Batch are literally a bad batch of clones, with genetic defects but also genetic advantages. Crosshair is frail, but has superior aim and coordination. Tech is somewhat small and has poor eyesight, but superior intelligence and technical aptitude. Wrecker has a stunted intellect, but is physically massive and powerful. Hunter, though, seems like he’s Just Plain Better. He has enhanced senses. Have they established that he has _any_ defects? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/17 "2021-05-06T14:53:05Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Hunter, though, seems like he’s Just Plain Better. He has enhanced senses. Have they established that he has _any_ defects? An unhealthy Stallone obsession? ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/18 "2021-05-06T17:05:08Z")
Or is it Solid Snake? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/19 "2021-05-06T17:21:03Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > So, for some context, this is a new animated series on Disney Plus. Thank you. I thought someone was watching the Prequel Trilogy. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363/20 "2021-05-06T20:04:46Z")
That right there is a clear demonstration of GenX vs. Millennial. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-bad-batch-on-disney-open-spoilers/941363.md?page=2)