# Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Seen It (Assume Spoilers Within) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 16, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645 "2015-12-16T23:16:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1301 "2016-01-07T17:23:01Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Doesn’t this galaxy have any planets like ours, with different climates and ecosystems throughout? Corellia, Alderaan, and Dantooine are all supposed to be more climatologically diverse, but we don’t really get to see any of those planets onscreen. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1302 "2016-01-07T18:17:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Corellia, Alderaan, and Dantooine are all supposed to be more climatologically diverse, but we don’t really get to see any of those planets onscreen. And what’s remarkable is how much they look in no way like Southern California ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1303 "2016-01-07T19:12:43Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Corellia, Alderaan, and Dantooine are all supposed to be more climatologically diverse, but we don’t really get to see any of those planets onscreen. I could have sworn Dantooine is prairie all over the way that Tatooine is desert. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1304 "2016-01-07T19:14:36Z")
Quick question, is it stated in the film how long Luke’s been in exile? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1305 "2016-01-07T19:23:24Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Quick question, is it stated in the film how long Luke’s been in exile? It’s a long time he go to a galaxy far, far away… ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1306 "2016-01-07T19:34:10Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Quick question, is it stated in the film how long Luke’s been in exile? They didn’t say specifically, but it was stated that it was after the new Jedi temple was destroyed. Assuming that Kylo Ren was the one who lead the attack, it probably wasn’t much more than ten years back, since he appeared to be an adult in the flashback Rey saw (again assuming she saw the fall of the new Jedi order). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1307 "2016-01-07T20:03:43Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …I noticed the music a little more the second time around. A similar theme plays when we first see Rey, scavenging from the crashed Star Destroyer on Jakku, and then again when the _Millennium Falcon_ arrives at Luke’s island at the end… > [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > That was Rey’s Theme, which is heard throughout the movie, often interspersed with the Force theme (a.k.a. “Binary Sunset”). I anticipate it will be heard a lot more in the subsequent two films… Right you are. I found it here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM). Good stuff. Probably my favorite part of the new score. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1308 "2016-01-07T21:28:22Z")
Hi - I am not planning on seeing the film but I am curious about two things - Why is Luke in exile and why does Han & Leia’s son turn into a bad guy? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1309 "2016-01-07T21:36:46Z")
Luke ran off in shame after his Jedi academy turned into a house of horrors; and Han and Leia’s son went bad because “he had too much Vader in him”. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1310 "2016-01-07T21:36:50Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > Hi - I am not planning on seeing the film but I am curious about two things - Why not see it? > [@](#): > > Why is Luke in exile and why does Han & Leia’s son turn into a bad guy? Thanks. Luke is in self-imposed exile because the new Jedi order he was founding was destroyed when one of his pupils, presumably Han & Leia’s son, destroyed it. He appears to blame himself. Han & Leia’s son, Ben, or Kylo Ren, was seduced to the dark side by the current leader of The First Order, Snoke. It appears Ren is having trouble staying evil, and he wants to turn to the light side, but is committed to the path he’s taken. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1311 "2016-01-07T21:39:43Z")
thanks, Lobohan. I’m not really into Star Wars (obviously) & don’t want to spend the $ on a film I’m not very interested in. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1312 "2016-01-07T21:53:37Z")
> [@Abner\_Ravenwood](#): > > I guess Galactic Civil War reenactment isn’t a thing in the Star Wars universe. That’s because they get a new _actual_ Civil War every generation or so. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1313 "2016-01-07T22:21:53Z")
Man, what else is Kylo Ren if _not_ a re-enactor? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1314 "2016-01-07T22:28:31Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Man, what else is Kylo Ren if _not_ a re-enactor? I thought this whole movie was a re-enactment of Episode IV. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1315 "2016-01-07T22:32:06Z")
So that means – _Kylo Ren Is J.J. Abrams; Wake Up, Sheeple_, right? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1316 "2016-01-07T22:32:57Z")
Apologies, but I can’t let this go… > [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > That’s like the song “Big Country” by the group “Big Country” on their album “Big Country.” “In a Big Country” by “Big Country” on their album “The Crossing” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1317 "2016-01-08T01:59:21Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > thanks, Lobohan. I’m not really into Star Wars (obviously) & don’t want to spend the $ on a film I’m not very interested in. For such occasions, [TVTropes is your friend, and will ruin your life.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/TheForceAwakens) I’ve used it to look up games that look interesting but aren’t my genre (such as horror games). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1318 "2016-01-08T15:05:13Z")
You happy, Raguleader? You’ve derailed the thread by sending everybody down the TVTropes hole. [Scene from Kylo Ren’s turn to The Dark Side.](http://videosift.com/video/Kylo-Ren-Rides-BB-8-and-Plays-Flaming-Bagpipes-in-the-Rain) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1319 "2016-01-08T15:10:00Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Apologies, but I can’t let this go… > > “In a Big Country” by “Big Country” on their album “The Crossing” 😉 But it is like the song Bad Company from the band Bad Company off the album Bad Company. Talk Talk by Talk Talk almost made the trifecta as well, but fell one short. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645/1320 "2016-01-08T15:23:49Z")
How soon we forget “Living In A Box” by Living In A Box, off their album _Living In A Box_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-force-awakens-seen-it-assume-spoilers-within/740645.md?page=67)