# Star Wars: The Old Republic for Preorder! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 21, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833 "2011-07-21T09:41:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AndrewL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@AndrewL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndrewL)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/41 "2011-07-26T19:11:01Z")
Honestly, from what I’m seeing of this game so far lack of solo content won’t be a problem. In fact, it really looks like this isn’t a MMO so much as a typical Bioware RPG with some limited multiplayer capability. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/42 "2011-07-26T19:40:40Z")
From what I can understand, you can 1-max totally solo, but you’ll miss out on some semi-significant amount of content. There are flashpoints (fancy name for dungeons, where are 4-man in this game), which require at least a couple people (you can bring in you AI companions to fill in for other players, but it’s not ideal), as well as “heroic areas” in each zone, which are essentially areas containing only what amounts to WoW’s “elite” mobs, which as reported are quite difficult–requiring 3-4 people to do. In addition, for world quests (not story quests) you get “social points” which can be spent on gear (equivalent to other non-group gear) for winning rolls on dialogue choices, but that’s not the biggest deal. From what I understand though, story content will be required, so the single player experience is more or less mandatory, but you’ll still miss a big chunk if you refuse to group. As for the end game, there are a few raids, and I can’t imagine the “solo planet” for max level characters being much more than a glorified daily hub. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/43 "2011-07-26T20:19:31Z")
The wikipedia page doesn’t mention what the level cap is. Anyone know what it is? ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/44 "2011-07-26T21:30:24Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > The wikipedia page doesn’t mention what the level cap is. Anyone know what it is? 50, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/45 "2011-07-26T23:59:29Z")
I got my Collector’s Edition, Woo Hoo! This will be only the second MMO I ever played and really I plan on treating it like KOTOR III through XXXXXIIII ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/46 "2011-07-27T05:20:03Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I got my Collector’s Edition, Woo Hoo! This will be only the second MMO I ever played and really I plan on treating it like KOTOR III through XXXXXIIII Nice! Hoping that once things get going maybe we can have a Doper guild or two. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/47 "2011-07-27T10:27:38Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Nice! Hoping that once things get going maybe we can have a Doper guild or two. Igneus Canis Ordo I take it? Probably Sith? ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/48 "2011-07-28T02:16:01Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Igneus Canis Ordo I take it? Probably Sith? Considering my full name is in the Wookipedia as being a Rebel Alliance personnel officer, I will surely have to play at least one of the Jedi Order. 😛 Hrm…I wonder if they will let me use my real name? 😃 On the other hand, my last name is also in there as being the word many people believe to have spawned the title ‘Darth’, so… Oh who am I kidding. I’m gonna play everything. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/49 "2011-07-28T17:09:25Z")
[http://betacake.blogspot.com/](http://betacake.blogspot.com/) has a couple of videos up of the Black Talon Flashpoint, spoilers ahoy obviously. Have to say it looks quality. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/50 "2011-07-29T15:24:57Z")
New [Esseles Developer Walkthrough](http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/esseles-developer-walkthrough) on the official site, looking good. Also [Smuggler in Combat](http://justswtor.blogspot.com/2011/07/smuggler-in-combat.html) on one of the leak sites, see it quick before EA take them down like they did betacake I linked previously. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/51 "2011-10-30T00:21:42Z")
Still hoping for a Doper guild in Star Wars: TOR, though I’ll be damned if I can find the thread it was mentioned in. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833/52 "2011-10-31T17:29:04Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Still hoping for a Doper guild in Star Wars: TOR, though I’ll be damned if I can find the thread it was mentioned in. 😕 Here you were, on the 12th… [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14352159&postcount=16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14352159&postcount=16) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-the-old-republic-for-preorder/589833.md?page=2)