# Star Wars Versus Star Trek! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066 "2006-03-04T20:34:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/41 "2006-03-06T04:59:13Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Neither is Star Trek. Actually, yes it is. But that’s not the point, the point is…pointy. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/42 "2006-03-06T05:44:28Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Actually, yes it is. > . See above. As a Trekker who can trace my roots back to the very beginning, I am not disparaging Trek when I say that. But it is not Sci-Fi. Never has been. It has evolved into its own separate and distinct form of fiction. It owes much to Sci-Fi, yes. But it follows its own rules. It sometimes comes rather close to sci-fi, but Trek never even tries to be Sci-Fi. Doesn’t mean it isn’t extremely watchable and fun, because Trek satisfies a certain entertainment niche (of which I am a part). But the standards and labels don’t fit Trek any more than they fit Wars. YMMV, but as the Ultimate Trek Doper™ (among several), my voice must be heard. :😉: ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/43 "2006-03-06T05:54:28Z")
We are using different definitions of “Sci-Fi.” That’s ok. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/44 "2006-03-06T06:33:15Z")
_Star Wars_ has the edge on actors. We got Harrison Ford, Ewan McGregor, Alec Guinness, Samuel L. Jackson, Terrence Stamp, Ian McDiamid, Peter Cushing, Christopher Lee, James Earl Jones, and Liam Neeson. Who does _Trek_ have? William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Patrick Stewart, Wil Wheaton. They got the guy from _Reading Rainbow_-we got the guy from _Sesame Street_. 😉 And like Liam Neeson said, (paraphrased very heavily), in _Star Wars_, aliens LOOK like aliens, not just some guy with a “vagina on his forehead.” ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/45 "2006-03-06T06:40:22Z")
There’s a line from something: “I know a galaxy where the only difference between intelligent species is a wide variety of facial applications.” But, for comic relief, is Jar Jar better than painfully bad dialog? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/46 "2006-03-06T07:54:39Z")
> [@Revenant Threshold](#): > > That’s true. I’d say it was a contradiction, though - they must be using different ideas of “lightspeed” if an average SW ship can cross the galaxy so considerably faster than an average ST ship Only if you think that SW ships travel **at** lightspeed, for which I’d still like a cite. > [@Revenant Threshold](#): > > (well, unless the galaxies are different sizes). They are - from canon sources, the SW galaxy is a little **larger** than the MW galaxy > [@Revenant Threshold](#): > > I didn’t really appreciate the snark on the end, though. I’m sorry I drove you to that. I’m sorry, my fault, I was still reacting to Weirdave’s CBG-styley > [@](#): > > Oh, bullshit. I shouldn’t have let that colour my tone with you. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/47 "2006-03-06T13:06:52Z")
Ahem. Star Trek and Star Wars are both sci-fi. So are Firefly and Battlestar Galactica. (Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, however, are just crap.) None of them are hard SF, although Firefly came the closest. If you want the hard stuff, you have to hit the books. Hard SF is generally defined as that which keeps fancy technologies to a bare minimum, and makes them well defined and predictable. Otherwise all science and technology conforms to what was known in the real world at the time of writing, or what was at least plausible. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/48 "2006-03-06T14:27:03Z")
This thread makes baby Jesus cry. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/49 "2006-03-06T14:54:29Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’m sorry, my fault, I was still reacting to Weirdave’s CBG-styley > I shouldn’t have let that colour my tone with you. No worries. 🙂 And I think i’m going to have to concede, here, since I can’t find a cite. > [@slortar](#): > > This thread makes baby Jesus cry. Baby Jesus vs. Q! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/50 "2006-03-06T15:15:55Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > Why is it that simply recognizing that Trek is set in a more technilogicaly advanced universe always makes Star Wars fans squeel like little girls? What’s the big deal, anyway? It’s not a commentary on the quality of Star Wars, it’s just a fact. Give me a break, **Weirddave**. It’s _fiction_ – there’s no “facts” involved! Which imaginary tech is better than which is entirely up to who is writing. This sort of imaginary “versus” thread should be done for fun, and the only person _I’m_ seeing getting worked up over this is you. > [@garygnu](#): > > But, for comic relief, is Jar Jar better than painfully bad dialog? I … _don’t_ … know … _what_ … you’re … _talk_ing … a_bout_!! [/Bill Shatner] > [@Revenant Threshold](#): > > Baby Jesus vs. Q! 😛 Ha ha ha!! Yes!!! Although I’m afraid, according to googlefight, it’s not even a contest: Q totally decimates Baby Jesus. But that’s not really fair, because Q could mean anything. If you put in “Star Trek Q” versus “Baby Jesus” then Jesus takes it. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066/51 "2006-03-06T17:39:16Z")
You must have some strange new definition of “worked up” with which I am unfamiliar. I thought I was amused. Thanks for setting me straight. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-versus-star-trek/347066.md?page=2)